Any difference between pans?

[ButchW]

Is there any difference between a '70 and a '71 pan? Don't care about seat mounts.. I'm just talking putting a '70 Body on a '71 pan? Yes, I know you wondering why.. but that's a longer story I don't want to get into right now.

thx.

[mountainkowboy]

Standard to standard.....no problems

[Ol'fogasaurus]

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/wolfsburg_ ... or_pan.cfm (floor pal supply?)

I think the basic shape is the same but the people I went through were able to time it right to get the pans w/o the seat rails, heaters, and other stuff not spot welded in place. Just the battery mount.

[Marc]

I'm not sure of the exact date they changed over, but `70 is more likely to have double rear springplates and 4-bolt control arms while `71 will probably have the single, 3-bolt plates. No difference in the torsion housing though, so either setup fits either chassis.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

My '71 has/had double spring plates. I heard it was sometime in '71 but haven't come across any specific pan number or date.

Edited to chang word from something to sometime to make more sense

[Marc]

Years ago I built a `70 Beetle into a Street Stock racer; they didn't require the correct VIN so I was able to "declare" that it was a 1971 in order to legally run a dualport engine. There were limited complaints about the "missing" vents behind the rear side windows but that was overlooked as a purely cosmetic distinction with no competitive advantage. However, a protest was raised over the double springplates by a competitor who ran a VW wrecking yard and was considered an authority. That placed the burden on me to prove that `71s existed with the double plates and I was unable to find any documentation to support it. Fortunately some of our shop's customers had early `71s which had them (with nothing to indicate that they'd been touched since the factory) and that was accepted as sufficient "proof".

[mountainkowboy]

Both my 71's have single plates.

[Marc]

I don't recall ever seeing any SuperBeetle with dual spring plates...anyone else with a `71 Super? Is it single or dual?

[ButchW]

I'm just talking about putting a '70 Body on a '71 pan. Sounds like it's no problem.

Much thx.

[ALYKAT III]

As long as you are going like to like , you're fine. You can't put a standard body on a super pan or a super body on a standard pan. I guess that is kind of obvious....just wanted to make sure you weren't going to go and buy something that won't work.

[ButchW]

As long as you are going like to like , you're fine. You can't put a standard body on a super pan or a super body on a standard pan. I guess that is kind of obvious....just wanted to make sure you weren't going to go and buy something that won't work.

Ha! Nope... was just talking a Standard Beetle... but thanks all the same.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

The torsion bar should be the same but from what I have read here lately the cover might be different.

[sideshow]

The cover (4 bolts and passage for torsion bar) is different between single/dual swing plates. It minor as one has stand offs to clear the second plate.

[mountainkowboy]

So is the cover different or are just the spacers different?

[sideshow]

The cover is different because of the space