what shocks would be a good

turboedbug · Post by **turboedbug** » Mon May 26, 2014 6:54 pm

I am looking for some shocks that would work for the occasional drag strip and a spirited run through the mountains do these exist?

helowrench · Post by **helowrench** » Tue May 27, 2014 10:06 am

you are probably going to want some stiffer torsion bars since you have the ej in the back.
i found a real good balance with the 924/944 sandard bars in the rear of my ghia (abaout as much ass end weight as a bug with an ej). a 19mm swabar up front, sachs shocks all the way around and sticky 205s for tires.

helowrench · Post by **helowrench** » Tue May 27, 2014 10:09 am

i should elaborate that i DD my car 70 miles a day. ride quality is now great with minimal bodyroll in the twisties. i do drive it pretty hard through the corners.

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Tue May 27, 2014 12:37 pm

Helowrench, what Sachs shocks do you use/ and where do you get them? I currently have GR2 front and KYB g-a-j in the rear, and am considering trying something new. How are they valved, or are they adjustable? It seems that the Koni's are no longer available, and Bilsteins are said to be stiffer than the KYB. For what they cost I don't want to gamble with them being stiffer..
SD

brookester · Post by **brookester** » Tue May 27, 2014 4:36 pm

I like the regular oil filled shocks. I originally had KYB Gas Adjust in the rear with 27mm torsions and felt that they rebounded too fast. Adjustable shocks would be the way to go but they are pricey.

helowrench · Post by **helowrench** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:19 pm

shepherd wrote:Helowrench, what Sachs shocks do you use/ and where do you get them? I currently have GR2 front and KYB g-a-j in the rear, and am considering trying something new. How are they valved, or are they adjustable? It seems that the Koni's are no longer available, and Bilsteins are said to be stiffer than the KYB. For what they cost I don't want to gamble with them being stiffer..
SD

Sachs "super touring" bought mine at AutoZone.
Non adjustable though.
I had gr2 and gas adjusts, rode great on perfect pavement, but would beat you up on anything less than perfect.
I could not stomach the cost of the bilsteins right now either, saw a few people recommending the Sachs, and they worked for me.

Caution though, AutoZone's website is stupid, and recommends a snubbed that is not the right one.
So, save yourself some troubles, email John at aircooled.net
You will need shocks 4ea @$30ish each, 2ea mounts for the front shocks @$20 each and the dust covers ifn John ever gets them in. $20 for the pair.
(the fronts mount up fine without the dust covers, it is a longevity issue.)

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Fri May 30, 2014 7:50 am

I'm curious to hear a bit about the Koni Reds. Specifically the Koni 80-1349, which is a stock height link pin application, with adjustable rebound valving. The idea of an adjustable oil shock sounds like it could be great on a lightweight beetle, where gas shock can easily be too stiff. The price seems to be in the $90 per shock range, a bit up there, but not as high as the bilsteins

helowrench · Post by **helowrench** » Fri May 30, 2014 8:58 am

Go read fjcampers thread on handling, a lot of really good info in there.

Ol'fogasaurus · Post by **Ol'fogasaurus** » Fri May 30, 2014 9:17 am

Unless things have changed a lot since I was straight line racing shock absorbers are going to be different for drag racing and suspension/curve control.

If you plan on keeping the car for a long time I would recommend spending the extra $$$ on re-buildable and/or (if available) re-valveable shocks which are going to last longer than many sets of general box store shocks. Remember it is the valving inside of the shocks... more than anything else, that makes the shocks work for you. Next to the tires, your springs (and a torsion bar is a spring) support the body but the shocks control the springs and, for that matter can make your suspension components last longer. Also, if you have a ball-joint car, remember that there are no bump stops on the front beam so it is the shocks themselves are the bump stops.

I have had many cars over the years hence many brands of shocks plus I have been a spectators on the edge of other types of racing and listening to the builders and drivers talk, it is the dampeners (a more proper name for shocks) that can turn a good suspension to wasted money or Hot Damn!

Lee

TedzBug · Post by **TedzBug** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:49 pm

shepherd wrote:I'm curious to hear a bit about the Koni Reds. Specifically the Koni 80-1349, which is a stock height link pin application, with adjustable rebound valving. The idea of an adjustable oil shock sounds like it could be great on a lightweight beetle, where gas shock can easily be too stiff. The price seems to be in the $90 per shock range, a bit up there, but not as high as the bilsteins

I just ordered the Koni Reds rear shocks and front rabbit inserts for my 1303...... I'll post once I get them in.....

Ted

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