help...........Baja thing
-
- Posts: 3
- Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:18 am
help...........Baja thing
Hi guys i have vw thing 72 and i’m watching some sites and posts that they low the cars but for high almost nothing. I want to make my car higher how can I do it.
- Marc
- Moderator
- Posts: 23741
- Joined: Thu May 23, 2002 12:01 am
Re: help...........Baja thing
We only got Things in the USA in `73 & `74 and they were all IRS - is yours a swingaxle, equipped with reduction gears?
Does it still have the authentic Thing front spindles (all four balljoints point down) or has a previous owner substituted Beetle parts (lower balljoints point up)?
Does it still have the authentic Thing front spindles (all four balljoints point down) or has a previous owner substituted Beetle parts (lower balljoints point up)?
-
- Posts: 3
- Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:18 am
Re: help...........Baja thing
in the car I bought from the army of Germany still have the authentic Thing front spindles with reduction gears.
- Marc
- Moderator
- Posts: 23741
- Joined: Thu May 23, 2002 12:01 am
Re: help...........Baja thing
You can install adjusters for the front torsion bar anchor points (or just cut & turn them ~¼")...the springs are already slightly stiffer than those in a Beetle, but could be replaced with Sway-a-Way's parts (kinda spendy). Raising the rear on a swingaxle is going to induce positive camber, which can adversely affect cornering and make it easier to roll, so I'd advise bring conservative there, but the bars are splined and can be reindexed. It's labor intensive, but there's no cost involved...most folks replace the rubber bushings while it's apart, though.
Does the German military vehicle use 14" rims? 15" with some taller tires would help both ground clearance and highway cruising speed.
Does the German military vehicle use 14" rims? 15" with some taller tires would help both ground clearance and highway cruising speed.
-
- Posts: 3
- Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:18 am
Re: help...........Baja thing
so if i understand correctly because i've swingaxle can't do anything special for the high. The only thing i can do is get bigger rims and tires unless i make conversion to irs...!!!
-
- Posts: 17881
- Joined: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:17 pm
Re: help...........Baja thing
There is a limit to the droop and compression angles before they can do damage to the transaxle itself. Also "tuck under" can make your very nice expensive Thing do nasty, dangerous, self destructive things.
The Thing has a better designed ball-joint (BJ) design that sits about 3" higher and the BJs are pressed in both facing down so that the lower BJs are harder to pull out than with a bug. The rear shock mount on the Thing (not real sure about the swing arm though) I think is installed higher than a bug which allows it more clearance in the rear.
VW did good so you can go out and enjoy it off road just keeping in mind that there are limits to what you can do. There are a lot of people with "toys" that have Ball-joint beams and 2-joint (swing) rear axles that are having a great time off-road so don't feel bad... besides, you have a "Thing" which a lot of people would just like to have.
The Thing has a better designed ball-joint (BJ) design that sits about 3" higher and the BJs are pressed in both facing down so that the lower BJs are harder to pull out than with a bug. The rear shock mount on the Thing (not real sure about the swing arm though) I think is installed higher than a bug which allows it more clearance in the rear.
VW did good so you can go out and enjoy it off road just keeping in mind that there are limits to what you can do. There are a lot of people with "toys" that have Ball-joint beams and 2-joint (swing) rear axles that are having a great time off-road so don't feel bad... besides, you have a "Thing" which a lot of people would just like to have.