Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
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Sideswipe
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Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
So I'm getting towards the latter stages of my turbo/fuel injection install on my 70 Ghia. I'm trying to figure out where to route the crankcase ventilation. I obviously don't want to keep the same method as before, since it will end up putting boost pressure into the crankcase. What's the preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
- rubenski
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
I have a empi bugpack breatherbox.
Bolted down to the generator mount plate against the fan housing.
1 to left cover, 1 right and the other one to the oil fill tube.
Worked fine NA.
Dont see no problems when turbo
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Bolted down to the generator mount plate against the fan housing.
1 to left cover, 1 right and the other one to the oil fill tube.
Worked fine NA.
Dont see no problems when turbo
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Sideswipe
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
Just vented to the atmosphere? I'll be venting from the distributor hole and the oil filler.
- buguy
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
I was vented to atmosphere from the oil fill on my last one and it seemed fine. This time I will also vent both valve covers.
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Sideswipe
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
I was considering pulling some crankcase vacuum by tapping into the plumbing on the intake side of the turbo, but from what I read the oil mist it pulls in may promote detonation. I guess I can vent to the atmosphere for now, and if I see a need for crankcase vacuum I can install a small electric pump or something.
- seabeebuggy
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
Vent case and heads to breather box, allows it to drain any oil build up back down.
- rubenski
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
I dont think i will vent at the distributor hole.
Never had issues, oil fill tube is connected to the case so basiscly the same
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Never had issues, oil fill tube is connected to the case so basiscly the same
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- WickedWagens
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
I vent at the "Mexican" alternator stand/oil filler and both valve covers up to a breather box on the firewall. -8 all 3.
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
- woodsbuggy1
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
After watching a video several years ago with plexiglass windows in the valve covers and seeing the difference when the valve covers where vented and non vented on a running motor, it was amazing how much oil ended up in the heads with vented valve covers. I vent both sides of the case to a catch can.
I want my case to be a low pressure area so the oil returns to it. If the valve covers are the low pressure area, where does the oil end up?
Kenric
I want my case to be a low pressure area so the oil returns to it. If the valve covers are the low pressure area, where does the oil end up?
Kenric
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- seabeebuggy
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
It has not been an issue with my engine. if it fills up i don't know but i have 7QTS of oil and your on boost for just a few seconds so it does not matter much. I dune with mine so it is on boost a lot. I go through water as fast as fuel sometimes LOLwoodsbuggy1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:09 pm After watching a video several years ago with plexiglass windows in the valve covers and seeing the difference when the valve covers where vented and non vented on a running motor, it was amazing how much oil ended up in the heads with vented valve covers. I vent both sides of the case to a catch can.
I want my case to be a low pressure area so the oil returns to it. If the valve covers are the low pressure area, where does the oil end up?
Kenric
- WickedWagens
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
Makes sense, but I have not had an issue yet. At Bonneville I am at 5-7500 rpm and full boost for about 1.5 minutes once I get up to 4th gear, pull through 4th, and hold it for a mile.woodsbuggy1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:09 pm After watching a video several years ago with plexiglass windows in the valve covers and seeing the difference when the valve covers where vented and non vented on a running motor, it was amazing how much oil ended up in the heads with vented valve covers. I vent both sides of the case to a catch can.
I want my case to be a low pressure area so the oil returns to it. If the valve covers are the low pressure area, where does the oil end up?
Kenric
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
- Amurray
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
I vent to a RLR type breather box. My valve covers are not vented however my heads are and the oil is returned to the sump.


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- woodsbuggy1
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
Check out these photos from Muffler Mike's website:
http://www.mufflermike.com/news2000.html
This is a shot of the right side valve cover at 5000 rpms - very little oil pooling up in the valve cover
http://www.mufflermike.com/791.jpg
This is a shot of the left hand side at 2500 rpms -its beginning to fill up with oil - 3000 rpms is cruising speed on the freeway for most bugs/ghias. And you thought your oil was in the sump and doing it's job!
http://www.mufflermike.com/751.jpg
This shot is with rpms 'coming up' to 5000 rpms:
http://www.mufflermike.com/752.jpg
And at 5000 rpms the left hand valve cover is FULL of oil!
http://www.mufflermike.com/753.jpg
http://www.mufflermike.com/news2000.html
This is a shot of the right side valve cover at 5000 rpms - very little oil pooling up in the valve cover
http://www.mufflermike.com/791.jpg
This is a shot of the left hand side at 2500 rpms -its beginning to fill up with oil - 3000 rpms is cruising speed on the freeway for most bugs/ghias. And you thought your oil was in the sump and doing it's job!
http://www.mufflermike.com/751.jpg
This shot is with rpms 'coming up' to 5000 rpms:
http://www.mufflermike.com/752.jpg
And at 5000 rpms the left hand valve cover is FULL of oil!
http://www.mufflermike.com/753.jpg
Good quality is getting harder and harder to find.
- woodsbuggy1
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
Sorry, just realized the pics are dead.
Kenric
Kenric
Good quality is getting harder and harder to find.
- buguy
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Re: Preferred method for crankcase ventilation?
Interesting. I've never seen heads with returns to the sump.