Type 1 into later bus....yeah yeah, i know.

1967Fastback · Post by **1967Fastback** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 1:32 pm

Bay window Type 2's (68-79), came with type
1 upright engines from the factory, from the years 1968 to 1971. They are SEVERELY under powered in the type 2 of this vintage and I
would surely use it on no more than a temporary basis. Any tranny parts from a 1968 to 1971 bus should suit your needs.

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Karman · Post by **Karman** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:03 pm

Believe it or not, there is (was) sheet metal available from the factory to put a type 1 in a type 4 engine bay. I have a picture of it - pretty strange.

JohnConnolly · Post by **JohnConnolly** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:32 pm

Use 71 and newer T-1 clutch stuff. The 2 big problems are the busses gearing (the gearing will overwhelm the T-1 engine, it's designed for 2.0L T-4), and the engine tin. It WILL overheat unless you seal the engine bay. We have some of the adapter tin made of fiberglass to use the stock seal, at http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewpr ... d2=EXF0015

John
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Pillow · Post by **Pillow** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:52 pm

Ast, do not give up so quickly. The '72 bus is geared for a T4 1700cc engine, not so different than a T1 1600cc engine.

The trick is to find an early bay tranny not a later one that was geared for a different motor.

People forget that the '68-'71 T1 powered bus was the same final drive ratio as the late split bus with RGBs.

Heck in Europe the T1 was a factory option engine in all years of the baywindow bus!

I say slap the T1 in there on the cheap and get the conversion kit from John and be done with it. I think since you are a newbie anyway the T1 is what you would want to work on first since it is easier than a T4.

Put a vacuum advance dissy on there and you should have no problem (never a 009 in a bus!). Granted you will not break any land speed records either

Then a few years down the road you can build a nice T4 motor instead of trying to polish a cheap turd on the cheap that needs a complete rebuild.

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'66 VW Westfalia - "Biscuit"
'79 Porsche 911 SC - "Cochese"

Pillow · Post by **Pillow** » Tue Feb 19, 2002 2:57 pm

As for the money part figure $300-500 for a really nice stock T1 motor. Then $175 for the fiberglass kit. $30ish for the engine seal. Whatever clutch and pressure plate... And you are rolling. $25 junkyard vacuum dissy that needs a little TLC (can get one if you need it).

... Minus the tranny which should be $100-200 used.

Pretty cheap to get into a car if you ask me.

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Adrian Pillow
'66 VW Westfalia - "Biscuit"
'79 Porsche 911 SC - "Cochese"