Emergency flasher
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funkymeters@hotmail.com
Emergency flasher
Can't get the 4 ways in my '67 beetle to work. Have it hook up exactly as the haynes manual says any ideas?
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69three@gobot.com
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Emergency flasher
yah, could be a bad switch. thats a hard part to find, so they are expensive too
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74baja1915
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Emergency flasher
I don't know about your year but mine is a 74 and my switch just fell apart when i installed my stero so i cleaned up the connections and bent the little tabs on the
back and it works but it your pull out and turn it will come on but not blink. they a very simple if you take yours out and look at it the two parts might have just seperated from one another and it could be an easy fix.
hope that helps if your switch is like mine
Luke
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If its not broke don't fix it, but if it can be made better by all means do it!
back and it works but it your pull out and turn it will come on but not blink. they a very simple if you take yours out and look at it the two parts might have just seperated from one another and it could be an easy fix.
hope that helps if your switch is like mine
Luke
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If its not broke don't fix it, but if it can be made better by all means do it!
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funkymeters@hotmail.com
Emergency flasher
hey baja74 can you give me more details? anyone have any ideas on how I could wire around this box? I have a box that was wired in to make the turn signals pulse i think. I really dont want to shell out the $80 for a new switch for a beater car any ideas?
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Marc
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Emergency flasher
The `67 system is completely different than that in a `74. The `67 uses a simple switch to control a rare, expensive compound relay that performs all of the functions of the t'signals and 4-ways depending upon the signal coming to it from the switch. Later cars (from partway into `69 I think) put the complexity into the switch and can use almost any flasher. The late design is much smarter since none of the complicated and expensive parts are involved in normal turnsignal operation. Of course, they didn't allow for Americans hanging litterbags and crap off of the expensive compound switch.
If you want to retain 4-ways on the `67 for relatively little money, you'll need the entire system (switch/flasher/wiring) from a later-model car - a `70 Beetle would be typical). Only problem is that the late switch won't fit through the hole in a `67 dash and you may not want to enlarge it. There are buses and Type IIIs that use the same system but have small-bezel switches that will fit.
If you don't care about the 4-ways working, all it takes is a cheap 2-prong flasher and a little wire rearranging to bypass the compound relay so you can have t'signals.
Remove the black wire from Term 15 on the relay and connect it to the input of a 2-prong 12V flasher.
Remove the Black/Green/White wire from Term 49a and the Blue/Green wire from Term Bl and connect both of them to the output of the little flasher. The small blue wire that goes over to the "K" terminal of the hazard switch needs to be removed from the switch and taped over, or cut away from the Black/Breen/White wire at the flasher end.
Turn signals should now work.
If the compound relay has failed internally so that the left & right sides are shorted together, you may need to remove the wires from the "VL" and/or "VR" terminals and tape them over.
The fat red wire to Term 30 of the relay is hot all of the time for no good reason now, disconnect it from the fusepanel to eliminate any future problems. The small red wire that comes from the same fuse is for your domelight.
[This message has been edited by Marc (edited 09-19-2002).]
If you want to retain 4-ways on the `67 for relatively little money, you'll need the entire system (switch/flasher/wiring) from a later-model car - a `70 Beetle would be typical). Only problem is that the late switch won't fit through the hole in a `67 dash and you may not want to enlarge it. There are buses and Type IIIs that use the same system but have small-bezel switches that will fit.
If you don't care about the 4-ways working, all it takes is a cheap 2-prong flasher and a little wire rearranging to bypass the compound relay so you can have t'signals.
Remove the black wire from Term 15 on the relay and connect it to the input of a 2-prong 12V flasher.
Remove the Black/Green/White wire from Term 49a and the Blue/Green wire from Term Bl and connect both of them to the output of the little flasher. The small blue wire that goes over to the "K" terminal of the hazard switch needs to be removed from the switch and taped over, or cut away from the Black/Breen/White wire at the flasher end.
Turn signals should now work.
If the compound relay has failed internally so that the left & right sides are shorted together, you may need to remove the wires from the "VL" and/or "VR" terminals and tape them over.
The fat red wire to Term 30 of the relay is hot all of the time for no good reason now, disconnect it from the fusepanel to eliminate any future problems. The small red wire that comes from the same fuse is for your domelight.
[This message has been edited by Marc (edited 09-19-2002).]