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roo
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the oxy looks like the hot ticket for a cheap stroker (or any stroker) but why not use an aircooled vanagon motor? i don't know anything about them and was wondering why nobody uses the aircooled block to start with. also would the heads from an aircooled vanagon work on a big bore oxy motor. like say 101mm, wink wink. just a shot in the dark on my part but maybe its been overlooked. you never know so i had to ask. thanks
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PapaG
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Air cooled Vanagon is a Type 4 aircooled engine. Waterboxer -wasserboxer is the watercooled flat4 or boxer VW made and used in the Vanagons. The OXY is a wasserboxer converted to air cooled.
Thats the nickle version. More info is available, by reading the earlier post.
HTH
Thats the nickle version. More info is available, by reading the earlier post.
HTH
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Badbugtwo
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by roo:
<B>the oxy looks like the hot ticket for a cheap stroker (or any stroker)…
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At first glance it may appear cheap, but unless you can do most or all of the modifications yourself or find someone who can do them properly for less than what it is really worth, you will spend a fair amount. In my opinion, the case is far superior to the Scat case and it’s also cool to be using at least some factory parts in my race engine!
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…but why not use an aircooled vanagon motor? i don't know anything about them and was wondering why nobody uses the aircooled block to start with. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The waterboxer and type 1 engine are more similar to each other than either one is to the type 4 (air-cooled Vanagon engine). Some people like the type 4. Check out the Type 4rum for more info.
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also would the heads from an aircooled vanagon work on a big bore oxy motor. like say 101mm, wink wink. just a shot in the dark on my part but maybe its been overlooked. you never know so i had to ask. thanks <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, the type 4 has a wider cylinder spacing & different head stud pattern.
Check out my website for my little “oxyboxer”.
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Jeff Rogers
www.badbug.com
<B>the oxy looks like the hot ticket for a cheap stroker (or any stroker)…
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
At first glance it may appear cheap, but unless you can do most or all of the modifications yourself or find someone who can do them properly for less than what it is really worth, you will spend a fair amount. In my opinion, the case is far superior to the Scat case and it’s also cool to be using at least some factory parts in my race engine!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
…but why not use an aircooled vanagon motor? i don't know anything about them and was wondering why nobody uses the aircooled block to start with. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The waterboxer and type 1 engine are more similar to each other than either one is to the type 4 (air-cooled Vanagon engine). Some people like the type 4. Check out the Type 4rum for more info.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
also would the heads from an aircooled vanagon work on a big bore oxy motor. like say 101mm, wink wink. just a shot in the dark on my part but maybe its been overlooked. you never know so i had to ask. thanks <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, the type 4 has a wider cylinder spacing & different head stud pattern.
Check out my website for my little “oxyboxer”.
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Jeff Rogers
www.badbug.com
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Piledriver
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The oil breather part of the case casting is different, but other than that... same `ol same `ol.
The wbx motor is sorta a cross breed, the bore spacing offset, and rods are T1. The good stuff is a very HD crank with T4 center main (just the center main IIRC) and the T4 flywheel mount setup (5 12 mm grade 12 bolts...)
The 2.1 has a 76mm stroke IIRC.
The wbx also acquired the benefits of a full flow filter, as well as the addition of water cooling.
The T4 is hard to stroke much over 78mm, the different cylinder spacing /bigger offset ends up with WIDE cam lobes which get in the way of the rods on a stroker.
The wbx uses a t1 cam (with narrower lobes) so the rods don't interfere much with the cam even at 82+ strokes.
The wbx motor is sorta a cross breed, the bore spacing offset, and rods are T1. The good stuff is a very HD crank with T4 center main (just the center main IIRC) and the T4 flywheel mount setup (5 12 mm grade 12 bolts...)
The 2.1 has a 76mm stroke IIRC.
The wbx also acquired the benefits of a full flow filter, as well as the addition of water cooling.
The T4 is hard to stroke much over 78mm, the different cylinder spacing /bigger offset ends up with WIDE cam lobes which get in the way of the rods on a stroker.
The wbx uses a t1 cam (with narrower lobes) so the rods don't interfere much with the cam even at 82+ strokes.