It's alive! and a sleeper....

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Poor Realist
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I just got back from the shop, and I get the square tomorrow. I will be driving the best beast on the road. Everyone who comes into the shop thinks this bad @%% conversion is da bomb! "Dude, he's got a what?!? in there? 2.3 what?!?! and sway bars?!? That's gonna rock!" is commonly heard by the guys doing the work. I've already gotten another customer bit by the bug. He just bought a 914 engine for his beetle. And the shop owner keeps showing my beast off to everyone.

It just barely fits. I'm gonna have to cut the air cleaner element down a bit to make it fit for now. For now. I will change it. Then I will track someone down with a welder and drop the drive line 1/2" or less. That close, I tell ya. Any San Jose fellas want to check it out and help me with the welding? email me at:
steveglavas@email.com

I don't know for certain, but I think Webers are taller than Dells. Anyone care to enlighten me?

The stock fill tube on a bus CAN be welded to a stock T3 oil fill tube to allow STOCK OIL CHECKING/FILLING!!!! A bit frankenstein...

...but I haven't done it yet. I will need to go junk yard hopping and find a welding buddy. I repeat, it *is* possible.

This machine is nice and quiet, amazingly enough. I can't wait to drive it! Image

Steve G.
Image '71 2.3L T3 cross country cruiser soon to be born!
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Post by dcatts »

I noticed you are in san jose...i live in berkeley. Where are you getting the work on the type 4 done? I use TW Engineering (these guys rock btw) in Alameda for most of the work on my bugs that I don't want to do myself...but last i checked Tony at tw won't even touch a type 4 much less work on shoe horning one into a type 1.
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Post by Tom Notch »

Got a pix of your Frankenstein oil filler? I was contemplating that but it looks to be a mess to make. Maybe I would do it if I saw what yours looked like.

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Post by Crazylarry »

I'm not in San Jose but fairly close. Fairfield. I'd like to see you car. As far as the dipstick/oil filler look at www.customspeedparts.com they sell one that look like a 911 oil filler and the dipstick is in the middle of it. You probably need to see it to understand it. Why are you and the other person posting having trouble fining someone to work one
T-4 conversion cars. I'm a bit far from you but I love to have some side jobs on these cars. Oh by the way I'm a Mechanic/Smog tech. If you know of anyone needing service let me know.

Larry
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Post by Poor Realist »

Dipstick -- Not done yet, but looks relatively easy.

Engine -- work done by Jake, Install by Dave at www.peninsulaautomotive.com

I still have lots of tweaks to do on this install:
-shorten the manifolds (mill the face down 1/4")
-get linkage that doesn't require a plate between the carb/filter (ideas??)
-get new air filters (cut mine down to fit for the moment)
-get my guages hooked up (CHT is on, tho)
-weld the filler tubes together

That's about it...

Steve
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Post by ned_glenn »

Steve-

Call me crazy... but, I like the idea of separating the filler and dip stick from the hatch of a t3 squareback (ie: using the 914 dip stick and filler)

I've had oil resisdue markes left on pants as I lean into the rear hatch. I know, i know, a clean well built, well maintained vw will not mark it's teritory, But seeing that it's an imperfect world......

....moving the oil filler/dipstick away from the hatch works for me. (oil stains never come out of a primaloft sleeping bag)

just a thought, before you go through the trouble of making the special tube and stick up.

Ned

Then again, with the custome t3->t4 dipstick/filler, you could check the oil with anybody knowing that you have a bit of a sleeper.

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Post by Poor Realist »

Yeah, I've gotten it going a bit already... Hit the gas pretty hard, but haven't gotten the tires smoking yet. The engine is still too young at 250 miles, so I won't be *really* abusing it until 1500 miles. It does keep up better with everything, though I don't think I'll be beating the 'vettes.

Ned, my engine doesn't leak oil, just money! Image

Steve
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Post by Tom Perso »

Jake,

Just curious what the difference is between the Dell carbs and Webers. Would throat size make a difference, or just the design of the carb?

I have heard (you know how this goes...) that Webers run best at WOT and that Dells are a bit more linear and have better throttle response down low. Is this the characteristic that makes the difference?

Just curious what your thoughts were on the subject, since I will be running Weber 44's on my 2270 (non daily driver). If Webers do run better at WOT, thats fine with me. Thats probably where they'll be most of the time... Image

Thanks!
Tom http://www.qtm.net/~persoj
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Post by Steve Arndt »

Jake,

I am sure you are right. However, in Idaho, you can't even buy a Dellorto idle jet! The parts are unobtanium here. Weber jets are easy to find. I have owned one set of 40 DRLAs and I sold them because parts finding here is a hassle. I now own three sets of dual IDFs.

You are also correct about idle jet location. Removing IDF idle jets can be a hassle. With 1" holes drilled in the engine compartment sides and sealed up with rubber plugs, I can change four idle jets in 10 minutes. Before I had holes it took me 15 minutes to change the #3!

Steve Arndt


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Post by Tom Perso »

I have holes drilled in the side of my fenders too. Webers are a PIA in that respect.

How does a Dell 40 flow compared to a Weber 44? Does a Dell 45 flow comparable to a IDA 48?

Sounds like the Dell makes more efficient use of throttle bore size/flow rate than compared to the Weber. Am I correct, or way off base?

Thanks
Tom http://www.qtm.net/~persoj
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