In Search of 411-412 Heat Exchangers

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Bob Ingman
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In Search of 411-412 Heat Exchangers

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I would like to locate a set of heat exchangers for my T-4 powered Thing to eliminate the bus heater boxes I have currently. Anyone have an extra set (of matching diameter) ? Good luck. Bob Ingman
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Bob, Try Bethany Auto Salvage in Oklahoma city. Also...try Oklahoma foreign...which has had probbaly 1000 914's go through its doors. Its on I-35, in Moore Oklahoma in case infromation asks.

Kerr Automotive in Oklahoma city probably has NOS on their shelf...they have everything else Ray
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ray where are you at McAllister?
The 914 units are not the same. Need 411/412. They have gas heaters and the exhaust is like j-tubes with sheet metal covers. Good luck. Hope you get out soon. Bob Ingman
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Ah..yes..the heat risers. If I had spare ones...i would make you a deal. I am working on accessing a source I have in Oklahoma city. They have literally hundereds of them. But their doors were closed months ago. All is still there...but they only will go in by appointment. Since i am 240 miles away in Dallas...it gets hard to do. Actually...I am in Dallas. The prison thing was humor...sorta. Ray
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Well Ray then you know and understand why I asked for equal diameter units. You see my location? Compared to me you`re right down the street from these guys. If you hear of anything let me know. Thanks and good luck. Glad you were released.
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Bob, if you know someone in South Africa, that's headed your way, I'll be able to help...

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914 411/412 heat exchangers?

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Hey, what are the differences with the heat exchangers? Why are they different? I thought the engine was the same basically or is it closer to the bus motor? Thank Bill
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Bill the difference in the exhaust between the bus engine and 411/412 engines is that the 411s were equipped with gas heaters and did not use the heavy finned heat exchangers. They are more like J-tubes with sheet metal covers. I have a T-4 powered Thing (which also uses gas heaters) so its a good and cheap way to get T-4 J-tubes.Good luck. Bob Ingman
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Oh I get it I think. The bus has a different exchanger because it needs to hold the heat because it doesnt have the gas heater just air heat. So it is actually thinker then the 914/411/412? Does the bus only have those fins in side the exchanger? I thought i've seen the j tubes on ebay. Thanks for the info, Bill
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bill the 914 has heater boxes like the bus. Good luck. Bob Ingman
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BUMP!!!
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Post by Jim Andritsakos »

Hello Bob!

Well, there is still available as NOS about 110€ each...
Both left & right 1969-1974 year 411/412

good luck,

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Bob:
Do you just want the headers or do you want em with the sheet metal installed on em? With my latest find I posted about ive got both. My hand is much better since the accident during finding the stash. Next week I will be starting to dig things out and bring home. I still want to check out your VEEP when possible.

Thanx ahead Bugmunn!!
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