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Anyone have this?

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I saw that and was considering buying it but I can't bring myself to drop that much money without seeing a sample. Or at least having the opinion from somebody I know who has it.
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I think there was a post last month concerning the one that Bentley has on CD rom. They said it was excellent. Do a search, it was recent. I will probably get one fro reference soon. Ray
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Actually, now that I think of it, it was the Bently one I was thinking of. I forgot about that thread. If everyone say's that it's excellent than I guess I'm just going to have to shell out the dough.
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I wonder if this is the Bentley?
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Repair Manuals and the Bentley Reference from June...

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The post follows. First I have a question...
There are several out-of-print manuals available at Amazon.com that list themselves as "411/412 1968-1974 shop manual" by Eric Jorgensen and a "classic reprints" workshop manual by Haynes. Are either of these worth the bread to spend? Ray I know you mentioned that the Haynes manuals are worthless, this one too?
Thanks and read on...

Chris Hobbs said
I just got my copy of the Types 1-4 Bentley CD set in the mail today. It is the real deal, an Adobe Acrobat-style reproduction of the factory repair manual microfiche set as it was distributed by VWoA circa 1981-82. Right now I'm checking out instructions on how to replace various 412 front seat adjustment cables--something you won't find in Haynes or Clymer.

Looks similar in style to the hardcopy Bentley repros of earlier VW repair manals, and includes various technical bulletins as well. VWoA apparently combined all its aircooled vehicles into one integrated fiche set. So you go to the section on Electrical System, then select vehicle type, then choose what chapter you want such as Windshield Wiper System.

Unfortunately the pictures are fiche-quality so they're not as crisp as the hardcopy VW repair manual pictures that we're used to. Also, to run the CD you have to install and register Bentley's eBahn reader software. All in all, not bad for the $68 cost.
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Actually the Haynes, 411/412 manual is not bad at all. It has the better manual transmission section . There was a blue manual and a green manual. The green manual was 411/412 and contained the L-jet section in the back. The first was the blue manual taht was just 411/412 up through D-jet. The Chiltins manuals are absolute Junk. Now...the Haynes manuals for later model cars in the past 7 years or so are absolute sh*t.
The Clmer manual triedto get away with pictures of bug/type 1 parts in many places...absolute sh*t. But...the clymer manual is the only one with info on aligning the four speed and the dimensions of the 3 feeler gauge tools necessary to do that...and it has an OK section on the gas heater...wheras the others simply tell you....like the auto transmission, that its is beyond the "average mechanics" means.....but we arn't average are we!!!!? :twisted: Ray
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I sure wish there was a Bentley manual for the Type 4. My Bentley bus manual I consider to be the best resource PERIOD for late model (68 through 79) vans. Everything from the basics to engine torque specs. I rarely do anything to my vans without consulting it.

I have both the Clymer and the Haynes Manuals (blue) for the Type 4. I usually go back and forth between the two when consulting them, and I usually wind up making my own decision. Although since I am slightly color blind the Clymer manuals B&W electrical schematics are more useful to me.
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I've already dropped about $125 on assorted manuals and books, plus time and other expenses. This looks like one stop shopping, especially if you own different species of VWs.
If I bought this series, I would in turn have to go buy a T-3. I know where two have been sitting for about 10 yrs, a FB and a SB, never moved.
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Don't stop untill the number of cars you own is in the double digits. :twisted:
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Post by Zen »

Do any of you have Part 1 of VW's Provisional Workshop Manual for the type 4? I've got Part 2, but it only covers electrical, body, and fresh air heating. Mine is the August 1970 printing. If Part 1 covers the mechanicals in the detail Part 2 covers it's topics, this is the manual to have!
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