puttin the 412 in Neutral

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DeathBus wrote:That was a show in Frankfurt I believe. At least thats where the white 412 and gold 412 are from.
Looks like Cyclops has a sunroof.
Actually as is apparent in the link, it was Dortmund, the Franfurters are out of towners here. Frankfurt was my home for 10 yrs. Still what a line up!
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OOPS :oops: , I have seen a VERY simular picture to that taken at a show in Frankfurt, my bad, should have read a little better! :oops:

Any Better pictures of the green car?
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Here is one! check out the VENTS!

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[quote="DeathBus"]Here is one! check out the VENTS!

Ah!, what a beauty! Didn't all 4 drs come with vents, am still ignorant here. They sure take care of their babies. You're not doing too shabby yourself diggin them pics out. I'll try & dig up some more on the green LS. I think some of the German members of this forum know the owner of this car or at least the group he belongs to. Anybody out there? Ist jemand daaa?
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I beleive the Vents were a European only option. The US cars just got the wavey top of the glass as a vent.
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Never seen one with vent window either :shock: . Did you notice the chrome engine lid vents on the black two door?....I have a set of those...NOS in the box..... 8) .
By theway, in case you guys don't know this about the "ground" glass on the front door windows of the type 4....its a marvel of design. Better than vent windows any day for what it does.

The vents on the front glass are designed to create a draft along the headliner when the window is cracked about 1/2". They do this because of the two little sets of louvers near the quarter windoews behind the back door and the 6 little slot vents on the wagon. The air is flow through. Its parts safety for running with the gas heater and maitaining safe ventilation...AND it makes the gas heater heat the interior and defrost the windows ...100% faster. The heat pushes forward and up from the floor. It is drawn along the roof liner and to the back glass. It sets up a rolling circulation in the interior. Much faster heating. It also draws cigerette smoke along the roof and out the back vents.

Speaking of back vents....I am contemplating a mold for the rear window carboard molding that goes on the 2 and 4 door models. It will be molded urethane....and have a small center mounted fan ...tubular like what you see in the inline heater assisters.

As of right now.....I have at least 15 parts I am setting up to manufacture limited #'s of. I just have so little time.

(1) cooling intake boots
(2) auxiliary air reg boots
(3) gas tank boots
(4) MPS diaphrams (virtually done)
(5) Rear window molding
(6) Track control do-nuts (done)
(7) control arm bushings (mold is done)
(8) repair kit for center link...almost done
(9) sway bar mounts...mold done
(10) idler bushing drawings...done
(11) mods for struts...drawings done

There are a few more. A lot of this depends upon my schedule in the next 6 months. I also have a method of using late beetle rubber in all of the glass and having it work perfectly. I hope to photo document the install in my car in october.

Also....who would be interested in ...front bras for the 411/412. I am contemplating making them by masking the front surfaces of the car, removing the bumper, flockig the surface for a soft inner coat...and spraying on bed liner.....thus making a removable two piece hard shell "bra" for the car.

Sorry to post these here...but I have been working out design and production details...while sitting on the can again... :lol: Ray
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I would be interested in ALL of those things Ray.

I am currently working on

Full carpet replacement for the rear "cargo" area of Fastbacks.
Rear cargo area carpet for Wagons.
(both carpets have an insulated backing, used in the HVAC business)

ALL interior panels (I now have a full 412 fastback 4 door and wagon set, sorry no 2 door fasties yet) I will be cutting out the blanks and have the fabric put on them by a local pro shop.

I have some spare seats that I am going to surgically take apart and copy, then have made at the same local shop that is going to do my panels.
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raygreenwood wrote:Never seen one with vent window either :shock: . Did you notice the chrome engine lid vents on the black two door?....I have a set of those...NOS in the box..... 8) .
By theway, in case you guys don't know this about the "ground" glass on the front door windows of the type 4....its a marvel of design. Better than vent windows any day for what it does.

The vents on the front glass are designed to create a draft along the headliner when the window is cracked about 1/2". They do this because of the two little sets of louvers near the quarter windoews behind the back door and the 6 little slot vents on the wagon. The air is flow through. Its parts safety for running with the gas heater and maitaining safe ventilation...AND it makes the gas heater heat the interior and defrost the windows ...100% faster. The heat pushes forward and up from the floor. It is drawn along the roof liner and to the back glass. It sets up a rolling circulation in the interior. Much faster heating. It also draws cigerette smoke along the roof and out the back vents.

Speaking of back vents....I am contemplating a mold for the rear window carboard molding that goes on the 2 and 4 door models. It will be molded urethane....and have a small center mounted fan ...tubular like what you see in the inline heater assisters.

As of right now.....I have at least 15 parts I am setting up to manufacture limited #'s of. I just have so little time.

(1) cooling intake boots
(2) auxiliary air reg boots
(3) gas tank boots
(4) MPS diaphrams (virtually done)
(5) Rear window molding
(6) Track control do-nuts (done)
(7) control arm bushings (mold is done)
(8) repair kit for center link...almost done
(9) sway bar mounts...mold done
(10) idler bushing drawings...done
(11) mods for struts...drawings done

There are a few more. A lot of this depends upon my schedule in the next 6 months. I also have a method of using late beetle rubber in all of the glass and having it work perfectly. I hope to photo document the install in my car in october.

Also....who would be interested in ...front bras for the 411/412. I am contemplating making them by masking the front surfaces of the car, removing the bumper, flockig the surface for a soft inner coat...and spraying on bed liner.....thus making a removable two piece hard shell "bra" for the car.

Sorry to post these here...but I have been working out design and production details...while sitting on the can again... :lol: Ray
Yes, I recently bought a set of those rear decklid vent covers and side covers NOS! I wasn't sure if they would look cool, but I think that now that I have seen the picture of them on the car, they look good! Anyway, I hope you have the time to develop those parts further, I'll be needing just a few 412 parts in the near future... :D
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Actually...I have two sets of those chrome louvers NOS. One of them....I am going to have powder coated black...along with finger plates for under the door latches. This may sound cruel....but I am also having my bumpers powder coated black....and I am going to epoxy paint the original type 4 mirrors and door latches, rain gutter trim, and rock guards black. I think this will be more uniform than trying to get them re-chromed. Against L-96m, silver blue metallic paint...I think this will look great. Ray
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DB...send those seat covers to sewfine. They will copy them for you and then have patterns on file. They have a fabulous materials ineventory. They already hve the rear seat patterns in stock with fold down arm rest. Ray
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raygreenwood wrote:DB...send those seat covers to sewfine. They will copy them for you and then have patterns on file. They have a fabulous materials ineventory. They already hve the rear seat patterns in stock with fold down arm rest. Ray
I WILL DO THAT, probably at the begining of next month. I woder if TMI or anyone would be interested in the panels??????
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