Curious...Production numbers??

can86 · Post by **can86** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:07 pm

For how rare these cars seem to be, how many were actually made? anyone know? thanks!

67 T1 · Post by **67 T1** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:07 am

Think production numbers are listed either at Tom's Type 4 corner, or type4.org.
Using a search engine will be you to ether place. It's a little over 400K. Shortest production run for VW at that point, 1968 - 1974.
That's why VW looked at this car as a failure. That and the fact they sat on the lots. The price at the time was expensive, compared to the fair haired Beetle. People had sticker shock

raygreenwood · Post by **raygreenwood** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:50 am

The sticker price for my 2 door 412 from the documents...was about $4,200 in 1972.

Yes...you could buy a Lincoln for that much. But they are great cars. Just a bit ahead of their time and a bit funky in styling. Ray

vwbill · Post by **vwbill** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:51 pm

Hey, what percent is still out there? One percent, Ten Percent?
If there are 50 States and You had maybe 100 per state runningish plus the other countries worldwide, maybe 2500 other, so 7500 give or take some range of 50 percent up, lol!!! So Really like 3K to 5k?????bill

67 T1 · Post by **67 T1** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:50 am

I look at it this way. If you own one of our 411-412, you are going to seek others that have one. Find every site that has 411-412 owners, count those up. Multiply that number by two and that will give you the remaining 411-412s.

The answer is 236. There you go.

raygreenwood · Post by **raygreenwood** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:41 am

100 per state? Not a chance! A few years back when I was traveling in 13 states for al iving....I started trying to ascertain how many were tagged. The havens for these cars were the pacific northwest....and new england....with a large bastion in the center of the country like nebraska, texas and oklahoma...cold areas all in all. There are perhaps maybe a dozen in Texas....at most...still driving. Maybe a 100...in all of new england...and alot sitting around in the pac norhwest...but maybe 25-30 driving. I drove a million miles in 7 years...around 13-17 states...and saw 4 ...411/412. If there are over 500-700 drivable 411/412 on this contienent...I would be amazed. Ray

DeathBus · Post by **DeathBus** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:41 am

I know of only about 100 to 150 that are still on the road here in North America.

67 T1 · Post by **67 T1** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:10 pm

236. The answer is 236.

Bueller....anyone....Bueller

raygreenwood · Post by **raygreenwood** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:09 pm

Maybe we can ask AOL...or some other providers to put this question as a one liner on their home page

Ray

albert · Post by **albert** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:18 pm

allo ray , i am living mtl canada and here he have approximattley 25- 30 411-412 for the canada on the road , and some time i visite the french internet site (flat4ever.com ) it is the same thing what you have (shoptalk forum ) and the guy there note 25-30 on the road for europe and maybe all the word he have (i suppose ) 500 411-412 on the road excep muséum,,,salutation all the 411fan ,,,albert

raygreenwood · Post by **raygreenwood** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:27 pm

Hello Albert! I'm in the Philippines again ...for the moment. I would doubt there is a single one in the islands....but I have seen a handful of brazilias with the 412 nose.Ray

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:17 am

allo ray on samba.com he have a deler in phillipines for 412 parts the guy is ramon fabie jaime 538 don mariano marcos street barongay maytunas,san juan métro manille if you have a time for to see if it is good place for to buy the parts , thinks,,albert

raygreenwood · Post by **raygreenwood** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:36 am

Holy crap!

...I know where that place is..... Maybe I can get there next weekend. Thanks! ray

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Curious...Production numbers??

Curious...Production numbers??

What Percentage still driving and still out there??