Foam in rocker panels?

[Longbeach412]

Is it true that type 4s had their rocker panels stuffen or injected with sound insulating foam at the factory? major rust trap !!!!

[albert]

i d,ot no if it is all the 412 , i make last tree monts on my412 e good restoration and good clean , i look inside the rocker panel witch a lamp , by the hole inside onder the carpet and it was clear , and from the air intake hose (before i remoove the close damper at the motor ) and i pas inside of the of tube( heating tube) a piece of rag twits at the hend of long steel wire for to clean inside the heating pipe from the motor to front foot air trap , and that was very thirt ,but no foam , i see only the foam , inside of the rear fenders and the front nose onther the spare tire , (412 --2 doors wagon )

[ubercrap]

It's also in the spaces in the engine lid of the sedans.

[ecdez]

I guess when VW built a car, they didn't plan for it to be still on the road 30 years later.

[albert]

it is right ecdez , but vw never do expérience for wather proof in the steerofoam , for 30 years , the foam is not wather proof , only for insulation for the cold , or sound proof , on my car i remoove the foam , i replace that by silycone more sealears ,

[Longbeach412]

If what I am hearing so far is a YES, then I think it should be removed from there. Question is; how??? See, I know that gas eats away at styrofoam. wonder if that'd work?

[albert]

yes it is possible to removed that , wich a hook , or if you have space for to repaint afther,use chimic produc , it is hard , (ex paint remover ) the foam came liquid , but do,t wait to much ,removed only the foam not the paint , and you wash witch wather very fast afther , you need to see what job you do , for me on the front nose , i use paint remover , hi have 1/4 inchs loose behind outside steel and inside steel , and i do that fast , wash , you can use air dryer , and i put zink primer and the paint , for the rear fenders i removed the inner insulation and i use only large hook , if you have light you can see inside the rocker panel he have 1/4eachs loos inside and by the rear light he have hole , good job,,,

[Longbeach412]

I will experiment with these recommendations when the time comes to get her ready for paint. Thanks a lot Albert.

[albert]

thanks longbeach for to read the forum , for me i have 412-1973 wagon 2 doors , and for more comfort for driver or passenger seat in my restoration of my seat , i see , inside the driver back seat , weare the hook stop the back seat , he have long roller (2 inchs large ) witch gear at each end that it was for adjusment for the back seat on the 4 doors (luxury option ) on the 2 doors we d,ont have this ajustment , but on the 1990 vw car he have that ,we need only the big black roller knob and the big gear for to instal that on the 412 for now i look on 1990 vw model witch one have the good gear for to instal on my 412 , the hold man need comfort to ,,,,ha,ha,ha

[albert]

thanks longbeach for to read the forum , for me i have 412-1973 wagon 2 doors , and for more comfort for driver or passenger seat in my restoration of my seat , i see , inside the driver back seat , weare the hook stop the back seat , he have long roller (2 inchs large ) witch gear at each end that it was for adjusment for the back seat on the 4 doors (luxury option ) on the 2 doors we d,ont have this ajustment , but on the 1990 vw car he have that ,we need only the big black roller knob and the big gear for to instal that on the 412 for now i look on 1990 vw model witch one have the good gear for to instal on my 412 , the hold man need comfort to ,,,,ha,ha,ha

[albert]

thanks longbeach for to read the forum , for me i have 412-1973 wagon 2 doors , and for more comfort for driver or passenger seat in my restoration of my seat , i see , inside the driver back seat , weare the hook stop the back seat , he have long roller (2 inchs large ) witch gear at each end that it was for adjusment for the back seat on the 4 doors (luxury option ) on the 2 doors we d,ont have this ajustment , but on the 1990 vw car he have that ,we need only the big black roller knob and the big gear for to instal that on the 412 for now i look on 1990 vw model witch one have the good gear for to instal on my 412 , the hold man need comfort to ,,,,ha,ha,ha

[albert]

ops ,,,sorry ,, my p.c make free game ,,

[raygreenwood]

Albert, I think you are refering to the seat back adjusters? yes/no? They came on all wagons and two door front seats...but not on some of the 4 doors. Hard to remember. Or was it the other way around....they may have come one the 4 door "fixed" seats and not on the wagons and two doors...because the wagons and two doors had the tilt mechanism to allow the seat to bend forward for getting in the back seat.
But...if you take the seat apart to re-upholster it, you will note that the non-reclining models contain the drillings and mounts to use the recliner mechanism....which is a cross shaft, a chain drive , the knob etc. But, you will have to do slight mods to the flip forward mechanism. Ray

[albert]

oh yes ray it is for seat backadjuster, wen i do restoration on my seat ,i see that and for to geve more comfort , inside the back seat , he have roller witch tooth (gear) it is fix ajusting by vw , on my 412 -1973 wagon he d,ont have roller houtside the frame for the back seat ajusment and on the new vw product he have that and in my old 411-412 , 4 doors they have that , and i thing , the ajusment parts on vw today are the same from my 412 -1973 ???