Exhausting ride

[Longbeach412]

Hey all, another question, when I took my 12 wagon for a ride I got way mellow after 15 mins and it became clear that I was taking in more than my share of CO. What are the usual places to check for exhaust leaking into the interior? The motor seal is gone, but the cover seal is good and tight. could that be a factor?

[albert]

allo long beach , he have 2-3 reason for your problem , block the extrimityes of your mufler with old rag or rubber (only 2-3 minutes)and go to look were exhoust leek outside , on gasket mufler or head gasket , if you d,t see nothing , your heather box have crack inside , if it is exhoust smoke inside the car , if it is oil smoke , it is différent

[Longbeach412]

Thanks Albert for the suggestion. Do you think I'd still get it from a leaky heater box EVEN if the heat is off? Do you think the lack of motor seal contributes?

[67 T1]

No engine seal ?
cheap and easy to install brother.

[ubercrap]

Well, I don't know about the other stuff, but AFAIK the engine tin to body seal is critical for proper cooling of an aircooled VW motor, and it certainly could only help keep exhaust out of the car. Albert is right, plug the exhaust and the engine should die. If it continues to run, you should be able to track down a leak that way...

[albert]

yes the 1 problem for exahaust in the car is the box heather , wend the car is cold ,the leak (crack) is close and afther 10-15 minutes running time , the expantion of the steel open the leak , for to do good job , close your heat damper(controle) at the condition close tite , and go to do smal ride , you see ,, plus watt kind of 412 you have ,,2-4 or wagon , the solution is différent ,

[albert]

ops sorry it is wagon , ok , the motor seal d,t geve you exhaust smeal inside , yes he have influence for cooling the motor , at the condition you d,t have leak on gasket manyfold and the rst , plus the cover seal is good , if odor is same thing oil burn , look inside the heather hose , some time if the motor have oil leak by valve cover , the pressure push oil on the heather hose , normaly you see that by outside wend the motor run , plus look the rubber seal on the h,back cover , the hend of exhaust is not far from the door , on wagon

[Longbeach412]

No engine seal ?
cheap and easy to install brother.

I know, I know Hey, its my 2nd time to ride the thing, still getting to know each other a bit here. The car is far from driveable and needs a lot done before I hop back in it for a meaningful drive, so its a priority thing as well. I am just wondering about the logic of what could possibly cause exhaust fumes to seep inside. Coolingwise, its obvious that you need the seal, but is it really causing that problem? I dunno, Nontheless I appreciate the discussion from you all, it does me a lot of good. BTW, there is no oil anywhere on the motor Albert.

[albert]

good ,ok if you have chance to rent a ,,,co gaz détector ,, pass the long wire détector on the muffler gasket , all the exhaust gasket if hi have noting , remoove , heating hose and instal the sonde inside the heather box afther 10 minustes running , do the job on each side, one by one and with that you find the leak ,,,,good chance

[Longbeach412]

I think I got it, last night I discovered that the rear hatch was unlatched. Gave it a good slam and the fumes are gone, I hope. Hey, is my hatch the only clumsey one? I mean when I depress the lock, I have to pull on the hatch with the other hand by the license lights to get the darn thing open. Am thinking to add hatch shocks to make open easier and dampen the stop.

[albert]

hi, notthing for big problem ,,, make attention , with your door loock , some time wen we do a job on door lock , we turn the kea casing(frame) and he feet good but look the angle outside if your kee have angle with body it is not correct and he d,ont look good or it is very hard to open ,,plus for,, i d,ont take chance , i instal steel wire by inside the motor section for to joint the ketch and if he block by accident , i go by inside remoove the motor cover pul the steel wire and he open ,ha,ha,ha he d,ont fuk me 2 times ,,he geve me your problem before ''

[albert]

ops,,, if you instal steel wire by inside motor section , d,t geeve to mutch long loops on wire , he can go on the alt. belt or in the fan motor ,make attention , geeve only the minimum , 2-3, inchs ,,,