Help me defeat the seatbelt interlock...

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MGVWfan
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Post by MGVWfan »

You hit one of my hot button topics Marc :!: I too have been rendered startless by one of those interlock things.

Not just 70's VW's and Subarus, rubber bumper MG's, Dodge Aspens, all kinds of cars (by federal government mandate, as you pointed out) had a system that required you to buckle the driver's belt (and usually also the passenger's belt, if a passenger was present) to close an electromechanical relay (usually) to pass current from the ignition switch to the starter relay or solenoid. Every one I've ever seen after 5-10 years on the road developed dirty/open contacts in the interlock relay, and had to be jumpered. And the best way to do so is to cut and splice the wiring, IMHO. No flaky spade contact (or whatever kind of contact the relay used) to develop resistance and burn up the connections on some dark evening (ask me how I know that one sometime... :x ).

Maybe it's the Lucas experience coming through :? , but for me, solder and heatshrink, the best cure. Just my $0.02 US worth.
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ubercrap
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Post by ubercrap »

Wow, I never expected to stir up this amount of hoopla with these seatbelt questions... :?
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Post by DeathBus »

ubercrap wrote:Wow, I never expected to stir up this amount of hoopla with these seatbelt questions... :?
troublemaker! :twisted:
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Post by raygreenwood »

Marc...Yes...I have some across that problem...just not in any of the vw's in question. The late 1974 was the only one of the type 4's with that overly complex interlock relay. The 411 and the 412's through late 1973 were simpler. Also....the 4 speed models only have the seat belt interlock. The neutral safety switch that the early 4 speed came with....was deleted on the later 4 speeds. It went back near the tail shift housing.
In the ones without the big relay...pulling the seat plugs will 100% fix it...permanently. :lol: That may be why they installed the more complex system.

I never said that I advocated these systems. They were especially heinous on American cars. My point...was to quit hacking up 411/412 systems...because THEY are not complex enough to worry about...and simple enough to fix when they do break. Generally they get ressistance in the system due to poorly repaired connectors, and water or corrosion. There are damn few of these cars left. Thats all.
Now the rest of the cars.....the sh*t should be ripped out. And I don't drive American cars any longer anyway...so I have less worry. Havn't seen any real interlock systems in a long time though (other than gear shift interlocks on autos.) Ray
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