Turbo or NOS
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BestValue
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Turbo or NOS
If you only want extra passing power would the Nitro be your best bet?
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Sharkey
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Turbo or NOS
That's a toughie. The only people that would install nitrous oxide just for passing on highways, etc. would be motorhomes or towing vehicles. Nitrous oxide is simply too much fun to limit its use to "passing and climbing steep grades".
But if that's all you want the extra ponies for, then nitrous is definately the better choice. A properly designed and tuned turbo set-up can cost several thousand dollars by the time you're done (less if you use used components).
NEW nitrous oxide systems can be purchased for well under $1,000 and can be installed by most people in a day. It is by far the cheapest, easiest way of doubling your engine's horsepower. Unfortunately, using nitrous is addictive. It will take a strong willpower to limit its use to simply "passing" on the freeway, and you'll begin to make excuses to "pass" every 5.0 Mustang within line of sight.
But if that's all you want the extra ponies for, then nitrous is definately the better choice. A properly designed and tuned turbo set-up can cost several thousand dollars by the time you're done (less if you use used components).
NEW nitrous oxide systems can be purchased for well under $1,000 and can be installed by most people in a day. It is by far the cheapest, easiest way of doubling your engine's horsepower. Unfortunately, using nitrous is addictive. It will take a strong willpower to limit its use to simply "passing" on the freeway, and you'll begin to make excuses to "pass" every 5.0 Mustang within line of sight.
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Fweemer
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Turbo or NOS
Here is an answer I was looking for. I wonder if CB performance or Gene Berg has a Kit that goes for the 34 PICT 1600 engines.
Fweemer-
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sharkey:
<B>That's a toughie. The only people that would install nitrous oxide just for passing on highways, etc. would be motorhomes or towing vehicles. Nitrous oxide is simply too much fun to limit its use to "passing and climbing steep grades".
But if that's all you want the extra ponies for, then nitrous is definately the better choice. A properly designed and tuned turbo set-up can cost several thousand dollars by the time you're done (less if you use used components).
NEW nitrous oxide systems can be purchased for well under $1,000 and can be installed by most people in a day. It is by far the cheapest, easiest way of doubling your engine's horsepower. Unfortunately, using nitrous is addictive. It will take a strong willpower to limit its use to simply "passing" on the freeway, and you'll begin to make excuses to "pass" every 5.0 Mustang within line of sight.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fweemer-
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sharkey:
<B>That's a toughie. The only people that would install nitrous oxide just for passing on highways, etc. would be motorhomes or towing vehicles. Nitrous oxide is simply too much fun to limit its use to "passing and climbing steep grades".
But if that's all you want the extra ponies for, then nitrous is definately the better choice. A properly designed and tuned turbo set-up can cost several thousand dollars by the time you're done (less if you use used components).
NEW nitrous oxide systems can be purchased for well under $1,000 and can be installed by most people in a day. It is by far the cheapest, easiest way of doubling your engine's horsepower. Unfortunately, using nitrous is addictive. It will take a strong willpower to limit its use to simply "passing" on the freeway, and you'll begin to make excuses to "pass" every 5.0 Mustang within line of sight.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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volkaholic
Turbo or NOS
A major disadvantage of nitrous is that you will be re-filling a bottle all the time. It will always seem to run out when you most want it. Re-filling can also be a problem depending on where you live. If you got a speed shop in town that will do it, great, if not, how far are you willing to travel to get it re-filled? Once you have a turbo system set up, it will always be ready to go. Of course, the best set up would be to have a turbo AND nitrous.
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Fweemer
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Turbo or NOS
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by volkaholic:
A major disadvantage of nitrous is that you will be re-filling a bottle all the time. It will always seem to run out when you most want it. Re-filling can also be a problem depending on where you live. If you got a speed shop in town that will do it, great, if not, how far are you willing to travel to get it re-filled? Once you have a turbo system set up, it will always be ready to go. Of course, the best set up would be to have a turbo AND nitrous.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
you can buy 10 bottles and store them in the basement. Or you can start your own buisness selling NOS and have a large underground tank under your front lawn.
cheers!
Fweemer~
A major disadvantage of nitrous is that you will be re-filling a bottle all the time. It will always seem to run out when you most want it. Re-filling can also be a problem depending on where you live. If you got a speed shop in town that will do it, great, if not, how far are you willing to travel to get it re-filled? Once you have a turbo system set up, it will always be ready to go. Of course, the best set up would be to have a turbo AND nitrous.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
you can buy 10 bottles and store them in the basement. Or you can start your own buisness selling NOS and have a large underground tank under your front lawn. cheers!
Fweemer~
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CptanPanic2
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Turbo or NOS
Yeah turbo and NOS is exciting on a VW. It would be great to watch those little cylinders explode? Bammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Yes the aircooled engine does have limitations.
Brian
Yes the aircooled engine does have limitations.
Brian
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Sharkey
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Turbo or NOS
First off, you can avoid running out of nitrous oxide by installing a pressure gauge and routing it to your dash. In fact, a nitrous engine should have three mandatory gauges: nitrous bottle pressure, fuel pressure, and exhaust gas temperature.
Second, building a nitrous engine is a lot cheaper than building a forced induction engine. On one page of the Summit Racing catalogue you will find both a Vortech supercharger kit (ranging from $2,000-$3,000) and nitrous kits (ranging from $475-$500). Both are for '86-'93 5.0 Mustangs. You can get a LOT of bottle refills for $1,500 or $2,500!
Third, you wouldn't want to keep spare 10 lb bottles around your garage. Empty bottles cost nearly $200 a piece! Better yet, buy or rent a 60 lb bottle, refill it at a bulk dealer for a considerable savings, and refill your own bottle at home.
Finally, nitrous oxide does not cause engines to explode. Improperly injected N2O can, however. Improper use of any technology can cause the same thing. See what happens when you attempt to run 30 PSI of boost in a street turbo application. This does not make nitrous oxide inherently dangerous. The fact that it has on occasion caused engines to "go blewy" is simply a testiment to the amount of energy available at your disposal. Build a good solid bottom end and try to remain conservative in your nitrous jetting and you'll have an engine that will be loads of fun.
Oh yeah, #5. Who sells nitrous oxide kits for ACVWs? Quite a few VWFLAPS used to about ten years ago, but about the only place you can buy it now is directly from NOS (Nitrous Oxide Systems Inc.). They have both a street version and a Pro version available. Price is probably around $500-$600 US.
http://www.nosnitrous.com
[This message has been edited by Sharkey (edited 01-25-2001).]
Second, building a nitrous engine is a lot cheaper than building a forced induction engine. On one page of the Summit Racing catalogue you will find both a Vortech supercharger kit (ranging from $2,000-$3,000) and nitrous kits (ranging from $475-$500). Both are for '86-'93 5.0 Mustangs. You can get a LOT of bottle refills for $1,500 or $2,500!
Third, you wouldn't want to keep spare 10 lb bottles around your garage. Empty bottles cost nearly $200 a piece! Better yet, buy or rent a 60 lb bottle, refill it at a bulk dealer for a considerable savings, and refill your own bottle at home.
Finally, nitrous oxide does not cause engines to explode. Improperly injected N2O can, however. Improper use of any technology can cause the same thing. See what happens when you attempt to run 30 PSI of boost in a street turbo application. This does not make nitrous oxide inherently dangerous. The fact that it has on occasion caused engines to "go blewy" is simply a testiment to the amount of energy available at your disposal. Build a good solid bottom end and try to remain conservative in your nitrous jetting and you'll have an engine that will be loads of fun.
Oh yeah, #5. Who sells nitrous oxide kits for ACVWs? Quite a few VWFLAPS used to about ten years ago, but about the only place you can buy it now is directly from NOS (Nitrous Oxide Systems Inc.). They have both a street version and a Pro version available. Price is probably around $500-$600 US.
http://www.nosnitrous.com
[This message has been edited by Sharkey (edited 01-25-2001).]