412 floor pan

[albert]

hello, the gang , i look on the web for to find new floor pan for the 412 , and i d,t can find a distributor for the 412 floor pan , i see 1-2 for the p.914 and 329 and many model of car but , nothing for the 412 , do you have some idée for to install new ,with the same look ,and the same bent for steell stress and support ,,,???ps i look in europe too , fiat ,peugot ,citroen,

[ubercrap]

I would think it would be easier to fabricate something or to have something fabricated for you.

[albert]

i d,t need that on my 412 ,the floor is very good , but this information can be good for the futur , for spare parts or accident ,

[raygreenwood]

There is no floor pan for the 411/412. It is not detachable like the type 1-3. The type 4 is a full unibody car. It is all welded and there are no bolts. So...if the floor totally rusts out in a 411/412.....it is toast. Ray

[ubercrap]

To begin with the, the car is only steel shaped and welded together, I see no reason any portion couldn't be replaced- the skill involved might be incredible and/or the cost prohibitive, but I see no reason it wouldn't be possible? Practical? Well, that's another story...

[albert]

for my oppignion , for what i see on the web , in the pellican parts katalogue , they sale floor pan for porch. 914 and the rest , and the porche 914 is unisteell body too, and i see in the mercedes parts , the floor pan for that car , and wy they d,t sale 412 floor pan , the volume is to small ???? and if we look in europe for ,,fiat 1970 or peugeot 1970 or appx. and all that car came from the italian car desiner ,penninfarina,,, i am curious i need to know the reason ,, i thing that is inportant thing , for to keep the 412 for many years ,,albert

[ubercrap]

wy they d,t sale 412 floor pan , the volume is to small ????

I think that is the most likely reason. I imagine the dies are quite expensive?

[vwbill]

I wonder how they make the die? Do they use a donor panel from a car with good floors? Wonder if you could get a pan made for the passenger area from a donor damage parts 411/412 and then bolt it to the exsisting floor with sealer for strength? Probably not worth it! So basically if the floors go the car is trashed on unbodies.? bill

[raygreenwood]

The 914 and the type 4 construction are not related. The 914 is very similar to the types 1-3 in that it is basically flat..with a hump.
The type 4 pan is made of a good deal of parts...not a single steel stamping. It is also a front and rear crumple zone car. If you hazard to have to get into the structure under the rear seat and fender arches to correct rust...you will find out that there is not pan to cut loose....at least not without greatly affecting the ability to re-assemble.

Partial pan areas...might be less of a problem...like the triangular portions of the front floor boards and the immediate foot areas of the back seat.
But even those...like the fronts...have a longitudinal box welded section for strength, seperate heater channels and another box structure that makes up the forward seat pedestal. Ray

[dphdo]

Greetings everyone! I did have a floor welded back in my '74 412 wagon. They (the bodyshop) replaced the floor on the drivers side where the battery sits back to the back seat. It cost me 8 billion dollars (or so) to have it done, but with the exception of not welding the battery holder back in the correct place (about 2cm too close so the battery doesn't slide in right) and not getting the seat rails set correctly (I fixed that), they did a pretty good job.

SMILES
Dale

[albert]

whow ,,,8 billion , d,t put that car for sale ,, nobody can buy ,,,ha,ha but that proove the job is possible ,,,