Ray did i order the corret ones?

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wshawn
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Ray did i order the corret ones?

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I have ordered the later top strut mounts but have discovered there are two

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I have ordered B from the 2 pictured, as this is the later one, is this correct?
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Wow... :shock: ...I thought I had seen all variations. That now makes it three variations for the SB and three for the 411/412.

The earliest superbeetle bushing (that I have seen) is a symmetrical bolt spacing bonded bushing. Same part # as that for the late 411 and early 412.
Then...the only other bushing I have ever seen...personally.... is what you are refering to as "B". That would be a replaceable bushing ring and cartridge bearing with replaceable delrin glide ring up top.

What you are listing as "A" can only be an interim design.....assymetrical bolt pattern but still using the bonded style of bushing. At least thats what it appears to be.

Yes...as far as I know...you ordered the same bushing I used..."B".

BUT...bear this in mind. I cannot tell that "A" is not also a replaceable bearing bushing assembly as well. AND...its metal center appears to be a bit smaller in diameter.

IF...in fact it is...It may allow you to bolt it in without needing to grind or adjust the opening in your strut tower. It would be worthwhile to find one...and ssee if it is or is not a bonded strut bushing. If its not....and the metal center is small enough...it would be superior to use over "B"...because it takes less body mods. Ray
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I shall endeavor to satisfy your curosity in the morning and if it is indeed all metal change my order to A and return B... :lol:
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Just be sure than the guts come out the bottom like B..so you can replace teh bearings and bushings as needed. Ray
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It would have been nice to know that "A" was available. Drilling only two or three new holes would have been far easier than reshaping the original hole to a larger size and drilling three new holes.
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The earlier one "A" has the bearing bonded into the rubber central area and is therefore likely to suffer the same fate as the bonded 412 ones I would have thought so I will stick to "B".
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Yes....thats the correct route to go. The bonded ones are ugly. Even those on my 90 model cabrio needed to be replaced about every 28 months. Ray
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