Just bought a 411

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haz
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Just bought a 411

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hi, haz from Norway here, first time poster.

Bought this nice 411 yesterday. It has been alomost to the North Cape, trip was 4451 km.

Need all info I can get a hold of :)

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Looks like a solid car. You'll find all the info you could ever dream of right in this very forum.
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Lars S
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Post by Lars S »

Welcome haz!
Nice car, it has the mysterious two vents behind the bumper...let me guess it's a -72?


Lars S
-914/4 -72 daily driver
-Husqvarna 120cc rat bike -48
-Husqvarna 120cc -52
-BMW 600 Road Scrambler -69
-Suzuki T500 Cobra -69
-VW411LE 2-door sedan -70
-Porsche 914/4 -72
-VW412LE 4-door sedan -73
-Suzuki K50 -77
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Welcome Haz - this is the best place for all the information you need on the 411/412. Perhaps you have the most northerly type 4 in the world?!
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ubercrap wrote:Looks like a solid car. You'll find all the info you could ever dream of right in this very forum.
Yes, according to the previous owner which is a good friend (we are both members of the head board at Oslo VW Club) the car has new brakes, no dangerous rust in bearing constructions, engine has been apart and put together with new heads (corr. word?) and exhaustleak was fixed. Parkingbrakewire must be fixed. Everything electric works.
Lars S wrote:Welcome haz!
Nice car, it has the mysterious two vents behind the bumper...let me guess it's a -72?
Lars S
Actually it's a 71 according to the previous owner. I know nothing about these cars, except the fact that I'm drawn to it, which is weird cuz I've always been into Callook bugs. I am looking forward to pushing the rearseats back and crack the backdoor dreaming of breakfeast when I am at meets and going to bed, watching others putting up their tents :)
kps70 wrote:Welcome Haz - this is the best place for all the information you need on the 411/412. Perhaps you have the most northerly type 4 in the world?!
Kieron
Yes, so I am told :) Thanks for welcoming me. I'm in Oslo, Norway. The pictures of the 411 just by the Borth Cape was from a trip they had from Oslo-Finland-orth Cape-Finland-Oslo again.

Check this link for more pics, and and nice read for you Scandinavians :)

Page 1 http://vw2you.com/cgi-bin/UltraBoard.cg ... &SID=28615

Page 2 http://vw2you.com/cgi-bin/UltraBoard.cg ... 28585#ID31

These are the links I have gotten just in the two days I have owned the car. Mind you, I have never driven a 411, let alone this. It was pure impulse.



http://members.tripod.com/~The_vw_411/
http://luxuswagen.blogspot.com/
http://www.vw411-412besitzer.de/
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Alternator.html
http://www.vwbughead.com/index.html
http://blog.flat4ever.com/albums/jfe/
http://www.evwparts.com/Type4.asp
http://www.steamantirust.no/vognliste.html
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2993318
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewforum ... =0&start=0
http://home.datacomm.ch/jostspeed/index.htm
http://home.clara.net/hallvw/
http://www.rastall.com/412/index.html
http://tunacan.net/t4corner/index.shtml
http://www.tunacan.net/t4/
http://www.type4.org/
http://vwtype4.xooit.com/index.php
http://www.volkswarenhaus.de/
http://w1.316.telia.com/~u31614134/Type4home.html
http://www.stockinteriors.com/CutSewnCa ... temid=6661& MakeId=29&ModelId=514
http://www.vwtype3and4club.org.uk/forum ... m.php?f=32
http://www.bughaus.com/
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vw+412& search_type=&aq=f

Thanks again guys, and please comment anything that can benefit my 411.

Btw, this was taken at -37 celcius. They reported the engine was fine and started first attemt. An article from the trip was documented in an internatonal VW magasine.

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Wow, -37 deg C and it starts first time, is it carbs or D-Jetronic?
Lane
73 VW 412 (the Nomad, dropped valve seat land now, argh!)
67 MGB (Abingdon's Finest)
76 Plymouth Duster /6 (runs like a top)
99 New Beetle 2.0 (never gives any trouble)
04 Golf TDI (45 MPG)
09 JSW (love it, love it, love it!)
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Post by haz »

Right... uhm, the model is 411 E, and I have been told that the E stans for Einspritz, which supposedly is German for injenction.
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Gotta love D-Jet :D If you don't dork it up, it works great. I've driven mine for about 40K miles now (like 60K km) after resurrecting it, only had to replace one injector and the MPS. Runs like a top. Only funny is, when it's good and hot, you gotta give it half throttle while starting, nothing really big.

-37 C is about -35 F...brrrr!
Lane
73 VW 412 (the Nomad, dropped valve seat land now, argh!)
67 MGB (Abingdon's Finest)
76 Plymouth Duster /6 (runs like a top)
99 New Beetle 2.0 (never gives any trouble)
04 Golf TDI (45 MPG)
09 JSW (love it, love it, love it!)
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Thanks Haz for the intresting reading!
Yes the D-jet is perfect in artic conditions, it almost starts quicker the colder it gets, and always runs perfect at once. I would never think of replacing the D-jet for a normal performance car, properly tuned it will give you the best gas milage, a wery quick throttle response and a safe start and run. OK some parts are hard to get nowdays but its wery seldom you need to get anything, the system is really reliable much better than its reputation, and still most of it can be solved.
Yes it can wery well be a -71, they are hard to tell from the -72 from the outside, the mysterious grilles seems to be in major for the -72 model, but if it has the windshield wiper knob at the dashboard (not a steering column lever) and a 3-spoke steering wheel its a -71.

(my car sits at Lat N 65° 16′ 52″ Lon E 21° 24′ 13″, one of the northests?)


Lars S
-914/4 -72 daily driver
-Husqvarna 120cc rat bike -48
-Husqvarna 120cc -52
-BMW 600 Road Scrambler -69
-Suzuki T500 Cobra -69
-VW411LE 2-door sedan -70
-Porsche 914/4 -72
-VW412LE 4-door sedan -73
-Suzuki K50 -77
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Bare hyggelig :)

Here is the article published in Ultra VW

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Welcome Haz! I have been saying the same thing that Lars has for decades. Seriously....when the D-jet injection is correctly tuned and running....it does actually seem to start better and better the colder it gets.
Mindyou...I have never had mine in areas as cold as where you are, but I have had it at -10F with 40 mph winds. It starts generally on the first revolution.

Very nice car. When you get time and warm weather, start on the rubber suspension parts replacement. They may be perfect now, but with age alone they break down.

So...you were "drawn" to it on impulse?......Yes...you have the disease now! Cold weather in a 411 or 412 will do that to you. They have all of teh "bulletproof" atributes of the original beetle......with superb snow handling abilities.....much more comfort and room....and HEAT.
You almost feel like a you have aminiature camper.

One of the most fun I had in my 412.....simply because it ran like a dream....brought me through the situation without a single problem...and operated like it was made for snow....was when I got stranded with thosuands of other vehicles in Oklahoma....during a freak blizzard that dropped 13" of snow in 5 hours and stopped traffic dead on the highway because of ice.
The heater worked properly...I had a full fuel tank....actually had food and water that I store in the cavernous trunk in the winter...plenty of intertainment with my CD's....and coveralls and two studded snow-tires and a set of chains in the trunk. I was one of about only 6 vehicles in a line of 100 cars that was able to drive around on teh shoulder and reach Tulsa before the sun went down. Got the last available room for the night.
These cars are a joy in winter when properly maintained and prepared. Ray
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My Norwegian ancestors (from Trondheim) salute you Haz! And your choice of a Type 4 proves that us Norskes really are practical and discerning. :D

I've driven RWD (a friend's Chevelle), rear engine (a friend's '78 Super Beetle), and FWD (my own '82 Plymouth TC3) in Upstate NY (Rome, NY, 100" of snow every year), and though FWD is OK, the good old rear engine VW is the king of snowy driving. I can only imagine how sweet it would be with a T4 instead of a Beetle, bigger engine, D-Jet, and a good heater, what's not to like?
Lane
73 VW 412 (the Nomad, dropped valve seat land now, argh!)
67 MGB (Abingdon's Finest)
76 Plymouth Duster /6 (runs like a top)
99 New Beetle 2.0 (never gives any trouble)
04 Golf TDI (45 MPG)
09 JSW (love it, love it, love it!)
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Post by Borge »

I'm the previous owner of this vehicle (the guy on the snowmobile on the picture further up in this post).

Just back from the garage where we did some work on the good old 411. Got it on the ground again and put the lowering front springs into action again. My co-driver on the North-Cape trip had installed some heightening devices to give it an original look. These devices are now gone! :) In addition Henrik (haz) drove around in the garage to test the engine, breaks and give the car a thorough wash. All in all a pleasant saturday with good friends.

Regarding heating. To get additional heat I replaced the original Type4 heaterboxes with Type2 ones ... since these are larger and are supposed to give better heat.

Have to admit that I've never felt cold in that car.

//Børge
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Post by haz »

hey buddy :D

I'll just chow down some Thaifood and then I'll post some in-work pictures of our light session in the garage. Thanks again for the help! Good to kill off those stilts once and for all :twisted:
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