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Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:16 am
by 66brm
What's the verdict?
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:48 am
by MarioVelotta
66brm wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:16 am
What's the verdict?
There was a few things. The ring gaps were all over, the piston to wall clearance may have been to much, and I think the cylinders may not have been honed enough and glossed over quickly.
I have bought a new set of Mahle P&Cs from CB with the fogred pistons. Hopefully I'll be back on track pretty soon

Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:29 pm
by Kalle
I stress honed my Mahles on a Sunnen machine once when they were new and never looked back.I have never understood why people hone their barrels without the correct torque.
-K-
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:49 pm
by DRED
Kalle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:29 pm
I stress honed my Mahles on a Sunnen machine once when they were new and never looked back.I have never understood why people hone their barrels without the correct torque.
-K-
hello kalle,
do you also do your barrel's metrology on this machine to check diameter/ovalization values and clearance with pistons?
did you ever compare values with and without the good torque?
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:13 pm
by buguy
Not to jack the thread, but since we are on the subject, i have a set of high dollar JE's on the way and i want to send them out to be honed correctly. Anyone know of a place they would trust to this?
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:24 pm
by panel
buguy......JE barrels ?
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:47 pm
by Chip Birks
panel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:24 pm
buguy......JE barrels ?
je pistons, AA barrels
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:21 am
by Kalle
DRED wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:49 pm
Kalle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:29 pm
I stress honed my Mahles on a Sunnen machine once when they were new and never looked back.I have never understood why people hone their barrels without the correct torque.
-K-
hello kalle,
do you also do your barrel's metrology on this machine to check diameter/ovalization values and clearance with pistons?
did you ever compare values with and without the good torque?
Yes and Yes. The barrels warp when you torque them and especially so if you choose to use a bit more torque than recommended. I believe I have the values stored somehwere and I will see if I can find them. As a part of my "winter service" schedule I always measure end play and leak. During the 5 years I tortured my little mouse the leak never rised above 5%.
-K-
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:59 am
by buguy
Chip Birks wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:47 pm
panel wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:24 pm
buguy......JE barrels ?
je pistons, AA barrels
Yes. Sorry, that came out wrong! Not going to hone my pistons!
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:56 am
by MarioVelotta
Alright, I'm gonna start fresh and hopefully this goes a little better
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Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:28 pm
by buguy
You'll be back in business in no time!