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Re: SOLD - 1600 TURBO + oval + downunder

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:30 am
by petew
Alright. So it's taken me long enough, but look what came in the mail yesterday...
Factory T3 manifold.jpg
This is a big deal. I've been wanting to go turbo ever since I bought the car, but it's only just now that I do so. This is also in the mail.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200745049655

AU$175 for this bad boy Chinabay turbo. Just need oil and exhaust hookups. Everything else in the car is ready for it. Fuel. MS2. Trans and diff. I do want to work out some sort of intercooler. It'll be blowing into a pretty tired engine, but I've got another one in the wings.

Re: SOLD - 1600 TURBO + oval + downunder

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:51 am
by Piledriver
Good to have you back|, those 510s go for goo $$$ over here as well...
I wonder if a vr38dett would fit >;-)

I don't recall if you can stack maps in MS2e. Want to say yes...

Re: SOLD - 1600 TURBO + oval + downunder

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:18 pm
by woodsbuggy1
Hello Pete,
Great to see you are making progress! Please keep sharing your build.
Kenric

Re: SOLD - 1600 TURBO + oval + downunder

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:11 am
by petew
Piledriver wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:51 am Good to have you back|, those 510s go for goo $$$ over here as well...
I wonder if a vr38dett would fit >;-)

I don't recall if you can stack maps in MS2e. Want to say yes...
There are a few people who've put VG30s in, but not with turbos. Sadly, we live in a Nanny state here. I talked to one guy who fitted a VG20DET. Yep, a 2.0l turbo v6 to his 510. Feels like a lot of work for a 2.0l turbo, but he says it's a great cruiser.

Re: SOLD - 1600 TURBO + oval + downunder

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:17 am
by petew
woodsbuggy1 wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:18 pm Hello Pete,
Great to see you are making progress! Please keep sharing your build.
Kenric
Sent you an email! :)

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:44 am
by petew
Been having issues connecting my new laptop to my bluetooth adapter. It's a windows 11 issue and here's the fix.

https://geekrewind.com/how-to-turn-on-o ... ws-11/amp/

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 4:07 am
by petew
Okay, need some tunerstudio nerds... Got my car doing this weird hunt where it almost dies after firing up.
Weird idle hunt 5.5.25.jpg
It's not closed-loop. It's just set on warmup then the idle motor turns off.

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 7:15 am
by Chip Birks
petew wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 4:07 am Okay, need some tunerstudio nerds... Got my car doing this weird hunt where it almost dies after firing up.

Weird idle hunt 5.5.25.jpg

It's not closed-loop. It's just set on warmup then the idle motor turns off.
Are you controlling timing? Or is this a fuel only install?

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 5:23 pm
by petew
Chip Birks wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 7:15 am
petew wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 4:07 am Okay, need some tunerstudio nerds... Got my car doing this weird hunt where it almost dies after firing up.

Weird idle hunt 5.5.25.jpg

It's not closed-loop. It's just set on warmup then the idle motor turns off.
Are you controlling timing? Or is this a fuel only install?
Yes. Crank trigger and wasted spark with a Microsquirt.

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 10:19 pm
by Chip Birks
petew wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 5:23 pm
Chip Birks wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 7:15 am
petew wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 4:07 am Okay, need some tunerstudio nerds... Got my car doing this weird hunt where it almost dies after firing up.

Weird idle hunt 5.5.25.jpg

It's not closed-loop. It's just set on warmup then the idle motor turns off.
Are you controlling timing? Or is this a fuel only install?
Yes. Crank trigger and wasted spark with a Microsquirt.
I couldn't see ignition timing on the data log. What is it doing in that zone?

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 10:33 pm
by petew
Here's the ign map.
Ig map 5.5.25.jpg
I've redone the datalog too...
Weird idle hunt 5.5.25.jpg

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 10:43 am
by Alexander_Monday
I use MAF so not sure if this translates, but I found that adding timing below idle helped to stabilize it.
If you are using PID closed loop idle, I'd guess that your closed loop sensitivity and or proportional gain is a little too high or derivative gain is a little low.
Also, if you are using stepper idle control I found that making a restriction in the line to the stepper valve helped on mine so each step gave a smaller change in idle air flow.
I did go too small at first and had to open the restriction up to find the sweet spot on mine.
YMMV, just my trial-and-error experience so take it for what you paid for it.

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 5:29 am
by petew
Hmmm, interesting.
I'm only using the stepper idle control for warmup. After that, it's just TB position. I live 7km up a hill. Most of my warmups are long and the ECU didn't seem to cope with that. It did odd things with the idle control because it expected the car to warm up faster. So yeah, I had to turn off the closed loop. Which is irritating, because it worked very well on the ACVW setup. When you say restriction, how much are you talking about?

Re: Downunder turbo oval & Datsun 510 adventures

Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 6:46 am
by Alexander_Monday
Honestly I do not remember.
Mine is not normal, I modified the Diyautotune custom idle air control body and my 65mm Ford 5L throttle body and cut a gasket and incorporated it directly to the throttle body where the original solenoid style was.



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I put a 3/8 NPT plastic allen set screw in one of the holes the barbed fittings goes into and drilled a hole in it.
Then I drilled it bigger until the step size worked good.