The Sneaks SHTF Westy

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Made the trip to fuser's yesterday, gave my last respects to the Pickle (after snagging her rear bumper and a hubcap for my '79). The rail and buggy were tucked comfortably in garages since it was raining (still). He gave me a side tent for this project! WOOT. Gonna buy his tires too. Now I just need to actually get some work done on it now that the 79 is on the road.
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You know, I was eying "shed" today... (my sons 73 that has given much and has been an acting shed for the last 15 years.)

Thinking about... fixing her.

To me she's a beat up, rusty hulk, but to you guys up in salt land she would probably be considered an almost rust free restoration candidate. :lol:

(the only rot is the lower slider on the door and a quarter size hole under the drivers feet from being ~open for the last 15 years, although she gave her windshield wiper setup to my squareback this year, allowed the underdash AC setup as it was offset/clocked properly to allow tucking it up behind the speedo with only minor shennanigans)
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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oh booo hoo. you texans have no rust-complaining privlages. Low-rust up here means you can only loose parts thru the holes, not tools. Fixer-upper can lose tools, but not passengers. "in need of some TLC but restorable", doors are unneeded for egression.
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fusername wrote:oh booo hoo. you texans have no rust-complaining privlages. Low-rust up here means you can only loose parts thru the holes, not tools. Fixer-upper can lose tools, but not passengers. "in need of some TLC but restorable", doors are unneeded for egression.
x2 lol
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Pile, pull that puppy out and get to work!!!!!
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How do you fit a Bay bumper in the back of this car?
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was gonna email him, but lets let folks steal ideas from this. Got the tent from a good friend of mine, here is the bus he bought that came w/ it. the snaps aere for it, and the screw holes in the roof are for that beading mount bracket, like on the roof of a buggy w/ a soft top, where the piping on the cloth slides in. Seems like a fantastic design, never saw the tent set up tho.

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NOW I can picture it. Cool, thanks!!
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wellll? do we need another race?
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It looks like, after 5 years of 'domestic' discussions, I'm going to be getting custody of both my buses. Hopefully this will happen before summer :D. Since I've got time to kill and something to look forward to, time to revisit this project and start researching things again.

Currently it has 15" wheels with T1 pattern, using adapters to mount. Suspect while the options for tires is greater in 15" (not by a lot but I can at least find some 15" M+S, can't seem to find much in the way of an aggressive tread pattern in 14" (my BFGs are going to stay on Ducky), running the adapters isn't going to be the strongest solution. Also, the 185s that are currently on those rims don't look like the will clear the rear wells under much compression, although they might help with taller tire clearance in the front? So, what do I have for 15" wheel options in the early bay wide five pattern?

Rear coilovers, do I ditch or keep them and get some bug ones for the front?

Motor is a 1776 (still needs to be assembled), 041 heads, W100 cam, full-flow, Berg pump, deep sump, dual 40 Kads, that sound ok? Keeping the sink, hooking up to a collapsible bladder that I'll only fill when needed, side cabinet, bed, and an extra battery. Think this will be enough motor for basic travel?
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That will git her moving, I hope its a early made for a T1.

A late Bay will have taller gearing for a T4 and be harder to seal up the engine compartment.

You can find some lovely 15" steel or even alloy wheels at most junkyards attached to old `benzs that are the right bolt pattern...
Might have to ream the holes out a little, but given that they will bolt on, ~right offset even.

The old 380SELs weigh something like a Bay bus carrying another bay bus, empty... Wheels should be plenty strong.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Piledriver wrote:That will git her moving, I hope its a early made for a T1.
Thanks, Pile :).

The case is a MOFOCO case of unknown vintage (universal so I have to have the bosses drilled and tapped for the bus). I had it checked out a few years ago by a machine shop I trust with VW stuff, it checked out fine. The motor was pulled and disassembled by the PO after it spun a main with just 300 miles on it, must have shut it down QUICK because no damage to either the dowel or the crank.

After looking things over, I can see why it spun. It was setup for full-flow, then he put in a full flow 26mm Berg pump... with the plug on the crankcase side properly plugged, but no outlet on the pump cover - it is capped. So, if I understand how the system is SUPPOSED to work, the plug keeps the oil from going into the crankcase, instead goes out through the outlet on the pump cover to a remote filter (have the setup from the PO still in the package, unopened), then from the filter back to the case?

Soooooo, I'll be doing it up the proper way when I put it together, now just curious if I should use the external cooler that is also in its box, brand new? I'm looking to use it mostly in nicer months but do want the ability to use it when the temps drop as well. Would the secondary cooler be overkill and possibly counter-productive to longevity? I'm shooting for reliable and adequate bottom end, most likely won't see frequent if any use above 50-55mph. I'm now living in rural northwestern Maine, closest 'highway' is a good 2 hours away:). Temps rarely exceed mid-80s in the summer and can be sub-40s (or sub-zero) easily 6 months out of the year. Yeh, AC isn't one of my planned upgrades :D.

I will give the PO credit, it appears he took a run through some catalogs of who's who in parts. The crank is a CB, cam Engle, Mahle 90.5s, pump, sump, carb linkage Berg, carbs were gone through by Lowbugget according to the receipts I found, converted to alternator, and a Pertronix module (009 but I also have several SVDAs that I could use, would have to tap and tee the intakes for vacuum. Planning on having a spare distributor with points all set up to go...just in case), so at least I'm starting with theoretically quality parts. The motor was in a Bug, came with the stash of parts that I got when I bought the Westy.
Piledriver wrote: A late Bay will have taller gearing for a T4 and be harder to seal up the engine compartment.
It's a '70 with the original 002 in it. I have all the original tin as well.
Piledriver wrote: You can find some lovely 15" steel or even alloy wheels at most junkyards attached to old `benzs that are the right bolt pattern...
Might have to ream the holes out a little, but given that they will bolt on, ~right offset even.

The old 380SELs weigh something like a Bay bus carrying another bay bus, empty... Wheels should be plenty strong.
I"m considering going that way when the BFGs on Ducky need replacing since Ducky is a late bay ('79).

This bus is a wide-5 with adapters to mount Beetle pattern :(. I like the looks of the rims I have but eh, adapters + Maine roads (or what passes for roads) <> confidence not inspired. Plus, no spare. I have a bunch of steel T1 rims so I COULD use one as a spare but that doesn't get around the adapter issue. Was hoping to find a 15" or maybe even 16" option that won't break the bank but open up some tire options. All else fails, I'll go back to stock rims and get the knarliest M&S I can find :)
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Distant memories tell me a late suspension (and brakes, etc) bolts on.
The drums/rotors may too, but not so sure about what swaps to what on the earlies.
Unless you love wide5s.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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I have this running as a thread over TOS (hey, STF was down...) and this was commented in the thread:

roy@mofoco.com wrote:


Well sir, it looks like you just won yourself a new set of cylinder heads!! Let me explain.

In our entire 25 year history of machining and manufacturing cylinder heads, we only had one bad batch. The problem was that the person in charge at the time tried to automate cutting the holes for the seats and then installing them. The problem was that the machine was inconsistent and we had seats falling out. Shortly after that, the person in charge quit and we obviously went back to cutting the holes and installing the seats by hand(and by hand I mean using a Sunnen VGS-20). It appears that you have a set of heads from that batch.

I would like to offer you a free set of brand new Mofoco cast cylinder heads as long as you will send me back that set.

You can reach me at roy@mofoco.com
Say what you will about their recent quality and\or customer services that I've seen talked about over there in the feedback threads, who stands behind something they sold TWENTY YEARS AGO???

I'm impressed. Even if nothing comes of it...
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I've only dealt with MOFOCO once, and was quite happy with the way I was treated, the cost, and the quality of the parts I received. I'll buy from them again if I have the need and the budget.
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