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Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:35 pm
by cal 67
Finally ordered the new vents. I was going to machine my own, but I'd only be shaping them based on a hunch. Maybe I'll still do them and compare.
Made some chamber volume plates. I knocked out a few for the future. My 66x105 will need one, and I made one for the 36hp platform.
Sent these bad boys out to a 914 owner in Florida: Chromoly shafts, high strength 8mm studs, machined and resurfaced rockers, tool steel adjusters, spring steel shim varieties, pinned solid spacers, and narrowed mounting blocks.
A friend sent me these oversized shafts (left) as a gift for worn rockers. You can hone them and still be within radial spec. Centerless-ground, smaller mounting holes. The right ones are standard chromoly shafts.

Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm
by Eddie010
Nice stuff.
Can I ask you a question, do you lock the spacer ring on the rockers?
Looks like you have bolts to hold them in place. Any reason for that?
Keep the pictures going, love your build.
This was a life saver for me, did not think of checking this.
Building a type 4 for the first time with Type 1 lifters.
cal 67 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:49 pm
Check Everything! The #4 exhaust lifter hanging up on a casting bump after the thrust bearing:
Did some quick filing, and got some needed clearance. I'll do more later. Just need to do cam timing and see where my decks are.
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:39 am
by cal 67
Eddie010 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm
Nice stuff.
Can I ask you a question, do you lock the spacer ring on the rockers?
Looks like you have bolts to hold them in place. Any reason for that?
Yes, they get locked. When the left rocker opens the valve, it's forced over onto the left rocker. The primary thrusts on these are on the right, whereas only the right rocker sees thrust load on both ends because of the left one is always pushing on it. This might be the reason for the stock center spring.
Anyway, pinning the center spacer separates the loading. I resurface the ends before shipping, and with the shims in place, I doubt they'll ever need resurfacing again.
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:51 pm
by cal 67
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:32 pm
by cal 67
Finally started. I was looking over my work after, and I think I want to do a little more to the fins.

Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:09 am
by cal 67
Heads are all welded and surfaced. I opted for Moldstar 90 seats. There's a guy on Ebay that'll cut whatever you want for a decent price. I requested that the seats be on the small side in the I.D. so I can finish them by hand. So I have dummy guides. Those get loosely pressed in, seats installed, then the guides get pushed back out for porting. When I'm all done, I'll install guides with the correct interference, ream, and perform the valve job. Unlike steel, these Moldstars only get about .006" interference fit.
Stock 40mm vents out, 44s in
Barrels got trimmed .180" to get .040" deck, and .050" positive deck at the dome center.
The Q cam is coming out (left), and the P is going in. I machined the cam again to clear the #2 exhaust lifter, and polished the thrusts a bit.

Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:59 am
by cal 67
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:01 pm
by Clatter
Oh man i love this build...
-Question-
I always heard normal steel seats fit at .006 interference.
What number would you usually fit?
Something else, about the pinned rocker shaft spacers..
Unlike a type 1, where the pushrods come at the rockers at an angle,
The type 4 has the advantage of the pushrods being square
(All of this being when looked at from below - hard to describe).
Did you see thrust loading issues like type 1s have?
I’d be scared one of those set screws would work it’s way loose...
Super cool oversized shafts..!
Hone the ID of the rockers for a perfect fit..
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:19 pm
by cal 67
Clatter wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:01 pm
Oh man i love this build...
-Question-
I always heard normal steel seats fit at .006 interference.
What number would you usually fit?
Something else, about the pinned rocker shaft spacers..
Unlike a type 1, where the pushrods come at the rockers at an angle,
The type 4 has the advantage of the pushrods being square
(All of this being when looked at from below - hard to describe).
Did you see thrust loading issues like type 1s have?
I’d be scared one of those set screws would work it’s way loose...
Super cool oversized shafts..!
Hone the ID of the rockers for a perfect fit..
Steel exhaust seats on Type 4s have different interference fit numbers depending which guy you ask. They're usually over double the amount that a Type 1 has, and the best guys are heating the heads and shrinking the seats with liquid nitrogen.
The set screws get loctite. Berg's rockers come this way. Yes, Type 4 thrusts still take a beating.
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 5:10 am
by Eddie010
How are you doing?
Do you got any updates on the build to share?
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:57 am
by Clatter
Yeah, me too!
Seeing pics of those welded-up chambers,
It makes my die-grinder hand start to twitching..!
Thread title - Budget Build.. Throws me off every time!

Should be "Badass 100x71 Build"!
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:29 pm
by cal 67
Hey guys. I'll get back on it. I got my car back from paint, so I can't really work on engines till I get it finished. I also ordered a huge base circle cam from Jurgen Novak, but he can't get a blank billet till maybe August/September. So I need to wait anyway.
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:57 pm
by cal 67
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:44 pm
by Steve Arndt
Looking good Tabari.
Re: Budget 100x71 Build
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:40 am
by doc
Super pics!