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250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:33 pm
by Schweg
Kalle wrote:CB650 springs is all you need and the new 044 heads from CB is sure looking nice.
-K-
I’ll give them a look.
Kalle do you happen to recall if Nikolai had any special done to the non counter weighted crank in his car?
Also do you happen to know the specs from the HX35 he had?
Thanks
Schweg
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Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:42 am
by Kalle
Schweg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:33 pm
Kalle wrote:CB650 springs is all you need and the new 044 heads from CB is sure looking nice.
-K-
I’ll give them a look.
Kalle do you happen to recall if Nikolai had any special done to the non counter weighted crank in his car?
Also do you happen to know the specs from the HX35 he had?
Thanks
Schweg
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Sorry for my late reply.
These are the specs on Niklas (not Nikolai) engine:
Orginal crank, no counterweights
CB h-profile 5,5"
Mahle 87mm pistons and barrels
Single relief case
Fk-89
lube a lobe lifters
Cromolly pushrods
scat 1,4:1 rockers
Deep sump
Orginal heads, ported but with original valves 35/32,5mm
1 5/8 header
Small air/air intercooler
HX35 turbo 56mm and 3" exhaust.
1600cc injectors and E85
Autronic SM4 ECU with MSD 8245 coils
392hp at the JPM Dyno Day. And here is the classic movie from a not-so-legal street race in Sweden where a friend of Niklas borrowed his car and won the dam thing - LEGEND!
https://youtu.be/NvkaZ7S0nOY
-K-
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:04 am
by Schweg
K,
I am amazed that Niklas’s engine held up with a stock crank! Not that I think they are weak just that everything I see about cranks says the case will be destroyed.
Thanks for the reply.
I hope to have something to add to this conversation here soon instead of just questions.
Schweg
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Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:08 pm
by bug66
Niklas has ruined some cases along the way..
The new specs are;
Some specs:
STD case with case savers on center bearing.
69mm counterweight crank with wedgemated flywheel.
Scat rods, std length.
87mm Mahle piston and cylinders.
Pauter cam, bigger than FK89.
Pauter 1,4:1 rockers
CB044 heads 40x35,5 valves, ported by Logmech (SWE). 9:1 CR
Rev6 dual clutch, with wire.
62/65 Precision turbo, water IC.
2400cc injectors
E85 fuel from the pump.
Autronic SM4 ECU
White rhino case, welded reinforcements.
STD R/P 3,88
East hill spool and side covers (SWE)
Finnish gearset and driveshafts.
9x28 Hoosiers
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:09 pm
by Schweg
bug66 wrote:Niklas has ruined some cases along the way..
The new specs are;
Some specs:
STD case with case savers on center bearing.
69mm counterweight crank with wedgemated flywheel.
Scat rods, std length.
87mm Mahle piston and cylinders.
Pauter cam, bigger than FK89.
Pauter 1,4:1 rockers
CB044 heads 40x35,5 valves, ported by Logmech (SWE). 9:1 CR
Rev6 dual clutch, with wire.
62/65 Precision turbo, water IC.
2400cc injectors
E85 fuel from the pump.
Autronic SM4 ECU
White rhino case, welded reinforcements.
STD R/P 3,88
East hill spool and side covers (SWE)
Finnish gearset and driveshafts.
9x28 Hoosiers
Bug66,
Thanks for the update! 2400cc injectors are insane huge! Any new ETs or power numbers from that set up.
That’s bound to happen playing with the power levels these engines are at.
How long did his standard crank and case hold out? Do you know what failed with that first setup?
Schweg
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Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:30 pm
by buguy
Yeah I think its more of a problem with the non counter weighted crank beating out the case than damaging the crank.
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:51 pm
by Chip Birks
Schweg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:09 pm
bug66 wrote:Niklas has ruined some cases along the way..
The new specs are;
Some specs:
STD case with case savers on center bearing.
69mm counterweight crank with wedgemated flywheel.
Scat rods, std length.
87mm Mahle piston and cylinders.
Pauter cam, bigger than FK89.
Pauter 1,4:1 rockers
CB044 heads 40x35,5 valves, ported by Logmech (SWE). 9:1 CR
Rev6 dual clutch, with wire.
62/65 Precision turbo, water IC.
2400cc injectors
E85 fuel from the pump.
Autronic SM4 ECU
White rhino case, welded reinforcements.
STD R/P 3,88
East hill spool and side covers (SWE)
Finnish gearset and driveshafts.
9x28 Hoosiers
Bug66,
Thanks for the update! 2400cc injectors are insane huge! Any new ETs or power numbers from that set up.
That’s bound to happen playing with the power levels these engines are at.
How long did his standard crank and case hold out? Do you know what failed with that first setup?
Schweg
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That setup put his ghia into the high 8s in the 1/4 last summer.
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:00 pm
by Schweg
Oh.... I was unaware that was his Ghia and the set up was in it.
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Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:26 pm
by buguy
8's. That's silly!
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:26 pm
by Kalle
It just shows the potential if you are willing to play around with your mouse. The long block is not expensive.
-K-
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:24 am
by bug66
Niklas ran 8,89 / 247 kph
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:12 am
by tucson vw
So the Mahle 87 pistons and cylinders hold up to 35-40 psi boost ? Just curious.
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:26 am
by bug66
tucson vw wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:12 am
So the Mahle 87 pistons and cylinders hold up to 35-40 psi boost ? Just curious.
2,3 bar / 33-34 psi yes.
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:13 am
by tucson vw
Good to know .
Re: 250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:10 am
by bug66
tucson vw wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:13 am
Good to know .
The tune is crucial...