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Nice german 412 Variant

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:33 am
by Wally
Pic taken by Dirk (belgium) at Hannover 1. May 2005 Meeting.

http://www.flat4free.be/mxBB/index.php? ... ic_id=2181

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:03 am
by raygreenwood
Those wheels are excellent! What are they? Nice ride! Thanks for the picture. Ray

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:42 am
by hometownwesty
I believe they are ATS Classic wheels:

http://www.ats-wheels.com/

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:53 pm
by raygreenwood
Danke! Iwonder how hard they are to get over here? I left an e-mail on their dealer request list. Ray

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:00 pm
by daz max
That is sweet :D
Wish the paintwork was as good on mine :shock:

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:14 am
by ubercrap
raygreenwood wrote:Danke! Iwonder how hard they are to get over here? I left an e-mail on their dealer request list. Ray
I've seen a few used sets for sale in the U.S., though they seem to be fairly rare. They used to be on ebay.de quite frequently, also, in also sorts of cool sizes.

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:21 am
by farmer
raygreenwood wrote:Those wheels are excellent! What are they? Nice ride! Thanks for the picture. Ray
Ray. If you come up emptyhanded, drop me a line. I´ll help you out if you want a set.
Torben

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:12 am
by raygreenwood
Very cool. It will probably be close to christmas when I am wheel shopping....but those would be perfect on my 412! Ray

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:50 am
by Ram
wow that is one sweet 412!!

I want a ATS set like that , how much they go for used?

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:38 pm
by hometownwesty
There was a set offered for 500€ over here the other day:
http://bugnet.de/markt/marktbild.pl?29540

Ray, I PMed this to you, but obviously you never got it.
Don't know how I messed that up, but the message never left my "Out box" and entered my "Sent box".

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:05 pm
by Wally
The 9J's in that set would however pose a real challange of getting it in the fenders of a type 4, also because of the low-ET value of those :?
Nice looking set tho.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:31 pm
by hometownwesty
Well, I'm not into that.
Sorry.
I just posted it here as a price reference.

BTW:
Didn't those wheels come on the 914, too?
So in that case there should be some in the US as well, right?

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:39 am
by raygreenwood
Thank you for the info. Those are sweet looking. The 5.5 x15's may fit if the offset is not to strange. That would work great with a 205-60-/15 or a 205-55/15. 500 Euros is a hair pricey with shipping and customs....but then again if they look right and are made well.....Ray

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:37 pm
by Wally
They pop up over here (Netherlands) from time to time also. I'll keep en eye open if your that keen on them.
500 euro is quite steep IMHO, but probably has to do with the huge width of those; 300 would be more market price and 5,5J en to some extend 7J are the most common sold sizes :wink:

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:53 pm
by raygreenwood
Thanks for pointing that out Wally! I had not noticed that they were 9j's. I was just doing Euro to $ conversion and..... :shock: ....$638!!! And that is without shipping.
Of course, there are wheels that are common in the aftermarket like the Riviera and the 8 spoke EMPI...that tend to run $99-110 each. Thats not a bad average price.....but....I have also found that those wheels I just mentioned are actually quite soft in their cast material. They are much like the original wheels VW put on my 90 model cabriolet.
I went through 2 complete sets...and they bend and get warped just by looking at them sideways. I then put on a set of original GTI alloys.....20+ years old no less...and they are straight and true and much tougher.
I would pay more....for a wheel that is quality. Of course forged is best....but finding a forged wheel of the correct size and usable styling for a 412.....could be quite a bit more unless the junk yard has what you need. I will have to see what a properly sized version of thsoe wheels might be.
Ray