1800 V engine - original clutch size?

oorwullie · Post by **oorwullie** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:33 am

apparently a fairly rare engine even here in europe. i've been offered one which is fitted and allegedly running in a late bay. i don't really need any more engines but will probably take a look next week anyway. i was wondering(if it still has the original flywheel on it )what size clutch would that be?
any other general info also welcome.

edit:ps, is the V actually a 1700 or an 1800?

raygreenwood · Post by **raygreenwood** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:56 am

In general....the 1.8L's had the 215mm clutch from the factory. The 1.8L was in general only in late 1974 in the 412.
However.....the 1.7L which almost always had the 210mm clutch after about 1969 (it was 200mm Europe early).....also used the 215mm clutch for a short period from what I have found....in late 73 right before the 1.8L came out.
The 210 is fine with a 1.8....if you remove just a bit from the step ledge where the pressure plate is bolted on....to increase teh clamping pressure.
You can use a 210mm disc in a 215mm flywheel in this method...or you can take a 215mm disc and have it turned down to 210 to use in a 210 flywheel.

Its nice to have and use a 215....but not that big of a deal to overcome.

The original 1.7L 210 pressureplate in the 9214 and 411/412......had greater clamping pressure than the bus 1.7L pressure plate. The 411/412 original PP is no longer available...so taking about .020-.030" from the flywheel ledge is worthwhile to get better clamping pressure.Ray

oorwullie · Post by **oorwullie** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:40 pm

hi ray, you're confusing me !

the only type 4 car engine i have any experience of is a 1700 W fuel inj. lump which had originally a 200mm clutch.i don't have a 411/412, just some vans.

and i'm in europe.

raygreenwood · Post by **raygreenwood** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:05 am

Your 411 with the 200mm flywheel was very early...perhaps 68-69. No 411's ever came to our continent with 200mm flywheel. By the way...I understand that the 200mm flywheels were forged...making them desirable for a lot of other people. Disc's for 200's are quite hard to find most everywhere. You would do well with either a 200 or 215. Ray

oorwullie · Post by **oorwullie** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:49 pm

i never had the car, just the engine which was an extremely low mileage genuine VW exchange unit fitted by local VW agency a year or 2 before the car was junked due to rust.
they thought it a shame to throw the engine away as well and it ended up lying in the basement gathering dust and the injectors were used on another car. i'd known about it for years before i finally bought it in 1999 and fitted it in my 75 westfalia.
i still have the very heavy 200mm flywheel somewhere in my "jungle" of parts, maybe it'll come in useful one day.it seems they are physically slightly smaller than bus flywheels, do you think it would fit in a 1970 ghia transmission bell?

i still have the 1700 W engine as well, will put it into something someday.