Speedometer Cable?

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DocLong
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Speedometer Cable?

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Where can I find one?

Thanks.
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Re: Speedometer Cable?

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DocLong wrote:Where can I find one?

Thanks.
What year are you looking for? Is it a type 1?
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Type 3 cables work well. The difference is the top nut that attaches to teh speedo. If memory serves its an easy swap. I also later tyook a top nut that was metal from something else...bus or type one I think. Ray
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Ray, any more info for those of us that are "type 4 dumb"?

I'm kinda lost.
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Drop into your favorite VW parts shop...perferably something like a Beck/Arnley dealer. Ask for a spedometer cable for a 1971-1973 VW type 3 fastback or squareback.

You could probably get this numerous places on the web. Check aircooled.net and wolfsburg west...and quite a few other places.

Also while you are at one of the specialty places like Wolfsburg West...get the small rubber speedo cable boot that goes inside of the fender. It is the same part for either type 3 or 4.

Once you have removed your speedo cable....you will see the small differences between the type 3 and 4 part. It is at the top where it connects to the speedometer.

That being said....you will actually do best to remove the speedometer while doing this.

Disconnect the battery. At about 4 oclock and I think 10 oclock positions ...when you reach and snake your hand up umder the dash.....you will find a small knurled knob on each side at about the approximate clock positions . Unscrew them.
Be sure you are not accidentally twisting wires or lamp holders.

This will be a cursing operation tehe first few times you do it. This is because the angle on your wrists will be severe and the room nil. The knurled nuts also have space at teh end ...for a 4mm allen wrench in case you just can't crack them loose.

These knurled nuts hold two 3" long "tangs" on each side of teh speedo. These tangs push against the dash and keep teh insruments clamped in. Once you get teh knirled nuts loose...pick them up...and the tangs....and gently draw them out through the lower part of the edash. You do not want to drop and lose these metal parts under the dash. Firstly cause you need them. Second because if they lay across a connector you can have a short.

You can see where to feed the cable through the body behind the carpet. From the outside with the wheel off...you can see where to install the little rubber boot. Do not lose the E-clip that holds teh speedo cable to the wheel hub. Let me know if the cap in teh center of the wheel is too worn to clamp the square end of the cable. There are fixes that take but a minute.

A bit about pictures. I have five cameras altogether. I am just now shopping adigital SLR to integrate into my system. Yes, Idocument most of what I do. I just generally do not have time to post and host.
With my new job and getting settled in here...that should soon improve.

On the other hand.......the 411/412 are unique among VW's. They are unique among cars in general. There are a lot of quirks and diificulties.
Things that are really helpful...will hopefully be a full rebuild series for the front end by August. I may be able to lay out a visual go through of the four speed transmission by August as well.

But...there are a great many things in teh 411/412 that no amount of pictures will help with.....because if I could get pictures...you yourself could never have you eyes in the position of the camera. It would not help you. There is a great deal of this vehicle that must be experienced simply by taking it apart and re-assembling it. No other way.

The speedo cable for instance....is a part like that. There is no visual way to explain the pain in the a*s of taking the speedo out, moving the carpet and possibly the underlay by the fuse block to find the hole in teh fender well...and snaking the cable.
Its really simple...but has some tedious parts that will not reward you if you do not have patience.
This could be a three hour job your first time.
I can now have both instruments out while pulling loose no wires in under five minutes. A speedo cable job is about 30-45 minutes for me.

There is very little written about the 411/412. I realize everyone says a picture is worth a thousand words.....but I work with visual images ervery day......a thousand well chosen words are better than a picture any day.

With automotive issues...subtle reflection, shaded areas and poor lighting make 90% of the pictures presented here...useless other than for a captured part # or overall general shape.

Don't take this wrong...its not criticism...but other than some of the outside track racing shots, general "here is my car" photographs....I have little appreciation for most of the photography here.

Because so little is written...I write as much as I can. If you get as intimately familiar with your car as I am....which is required with a 411/412....my overly long descriptions....are BETTER than a photograph.

Bear in mind some of my descriptions written here since mid january. I have not even physically seen my car since December. It is in a storage unit 1600 miles from here and will not be close by until June.

I wrote that description of where to find the vent line by closing my eyes. Print out what I write...take it outside....stand where I tell you...look where I tell you.

Also....I have somewhere around $4,000 dollars worth of lenses. Yes other than my two small digitals with which I can take superb picrtures...I have three superb fim cameras. I still take a lot of film and very quickly develop it myself...and also just as quick scan the negatives into digital.
Ther are things I can do that no digital can yet produce. I am getting my digital SLR very quickly so I can skip a step or two and still have it be superb.


That is my point. I will not be posting pics until what I post is superb. Meaning what I post will be superbly focused...I have 2x lifesize macro lens capability (not macro zoom or digital zoom...thats crap)....I can photograph single numbers in part #'s....full frame....without using zoom at all... :shock: . I will always be superbly lit.

Yes a picture is worth a thousand words. But...a scratchy, grainy poorly focused, artifact encrusted jpeg....is an excerize in frustration when you needed an answer...and expected a picture....and teh picture just doesn't cut it. Until I am ready...soon...you will see no pictures from me.

When it is easy and simple for me and the quality is first rate.....I have mountains to publish to the web. Sorry for the length. Ray
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