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Was told they are VW hand poured. I don't have a clue. both are the same

I've never seen anything like them. There's a long thread at theSamba (geared mostly towards early Bus headlamp trivia) that might touch on them, if you have the time to read through it.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=180652

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=242563

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279505

Thanks Marc, looked through them. A lot of close ones but these have no markings at all but they are supposed to be done by hand so that could be why no marking, again thanks!