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black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:12 am
by MILLERS2002
so took off hub caps on the 65 today and the driver side rear was covered in a black soot type film, brake issues? What would cause this?? Again any help is great, thanks all.

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:15 am
by MILLERS2002
Here are a couple pics

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:43 am
by V8Nate
Brake dust

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:16 pm
by MILLERS2002
Ok thanks Nate, so here's another one for ya...so on my fuel line there is something installed that I haven't seen in any pics and don't know what it is? Old fuel filter.maybe?? Should I leave it? Put in new plastic filter between that and carb?

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:47 pm
by V8Nate
I would guess that is a fuel filter, i haven't seen one exactly like that though. What does it look like on the bottom. To be honest I still run a acorn style filter in between the fuel pump and carb on stock setups even though it is frowned apon because the weight of the fuel in the filter can pull the brass nipple out of the carb and start a fire. There are ways around this but I personally like my carbs fuel to be clean just in case the diaphragm starts coming apart

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:30 pm
by MILLERS2002
So on the bottom the main line connects and then it connects to the pump, then out of the pump and back to the filter then up to the carb.....kinda like it is a double filter?? First filtering to the pump and then again to the carb? I have looked a hundreds of engine pics and haven't seen one?? Do you clamp your lines at the pump, filter and carb? And do you use rubber or the braided original style fuel lines?

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:32 pm
by MILLERS2002
main line, meaning fuel line from tank.

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:36 pm
by doc
Let's find a way to route that line away from the distributor cap where it could catch a loose spark. Gas and sparks is a bad deal.

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:34 pm
by MILLERS2002
Agreed, what or where is the bast way to route the line? And do you all think I should put in new fuel pump or leave stock? And what about that old filter thing, should that Stay or go? Car runs really good as is but I am a little worried the older parts in fuel system. The car was my dads and I want to keep it as stock as possible for value sake but I also don't want it to burn to the ground!

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:27 pm
by V8Nate
That is a wild piece of history! I use a clamp on every end of the hose(filter, pump, carb) i use regular rubber hose even though it is slightly larger than stock size. The pump could last years or weeks depending on its age and how much ethanol is in your fuel, as long as its not leaking id use it but have a spare pump on hand

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:46 pm
by MILLERS2002
Yea, its wild that I can't find that part anywhere!? I don't know what was run previously by my dad but I am only going to run premium with no ethanol. Think infill replace all lines in engine compartment to be safe and order a pump to have on hand.

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:17 pm
by Ol'fogasaurus
doc wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:36 pm Let's find a way to route that line away from the distributor cap where it could catch a loose spark. Gas and sparks is a bad deal.
That was my same thought when I saw it too Doc. The hoses look old and probably dried out and the missing clamp somewhat dictates that too as the hose is holding shape at the inlet/outlet. The loop in the one hose is a place for air to collect and potentially cause a problem with fuel delivery.

In this case I would recommend metal tubes at least as in and out agents around the dist. et al.

My two-bits on this.

Lee

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:18 am
by doc
Get a copy of John Muir's "How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive For the Complete Idiot". So many of us started with this book. It has a fantastic amount of info about your car. Worth it, for sure, when you're just getting started. Sweet that you have your Dad's car!

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:28 am
by MILLERS2002
Thanks Doc, I will get that book for sure!👍

Re: black soot like film on hub cap?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:37 pm
by Piledriver
It is vital to install some form of armored feed through where the fuel line passes through the fronr engine tin, whether you are using rubber line or the original style of formed metal tubing... the sheet metal likes to saw its way thriugh over time,the original solution was a rubber grommet,but those fell apart decades ago. Nylon caterpillar strip seems to work ok, as will a plumbing bulkhead feed through large enough to pass the line through...
An electric pump up front under the fuel tank is a much better solution than a Brazilian or Chinese mechanical pump, and is hidden well out of sight.
The fuel pump will pass fuel flowing through just fine if you want to keep it looking original, no pump pushrod required. the pumps usually had built in fine strainers btw. A screw in carb fitting is highly recommended.

See also "how not to burn you vw down" was a thread a few years back, google site search works well... There are other "dragons" lurking in these old cars that are all relatively easy to fix if you know about them.

Just read everything in oldfogs how-to collection thread, its in there...
https://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=127632