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Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:47 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
Is there a limit of how much psi will go into a cylinder.

My motor has 66mm from BDC to TDC.
How will a motor complain about the cylinder being too full.
Broken rings maybe
Boost escaping out the exhaust valves due to cam over lap
If boost escapes due to cam over lap a motor should be pretty safe if the tune is there.
I ask because my motor complains with higher boost by popping out the exhaust pipe.
Maybe it's spark blow out.

I have just fit a petronix big cap distributor and flame thrower coil, this is an improvement over the small cap, standard coil I had previously.
Motor is stable at 1 bar, but my turbo is capable of more, so I wanna use what it can do.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:09 am
by buguy
Spark blowout would be my guess. Maybe try tightening up your plug gap and see if it changes.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:23 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
I'll re gap and give it a test. Seeing as plenty other guys are boosting high.. It's not like they can't take it is it.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:33 am
by bug66
How much boost? Fuel type? What induction are you running (carb or efi?). How much spark at the boost level it pops, and what is the AF?

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:47 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
1.5
95 ron
12 idle
24 total
Water meth
No intercooler
40 dells
8.1 comp
12 afr

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:50 am
by Schweg
Your exhaust back pressure and valve springs maybe limiting producible boost. As your boost level and exhaust back pressure should be about the same.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:18 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
If I remember right I've got duals on the lnlet and singles on the exhaust. I'll check

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:38 pm
by buguy
I really doubt it is the springs. I ran 30 psi on worn out singles.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:07 pm
by Schweg
I was more thinking valve float and pumping loss due to pressures in both sides. Though mine has seen 20 psi and hasn’t bought the farm.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:23 pm
by buguy
Never know.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:34 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
Hello. I got over a few issues a while back. Car does run 1 bar with an actuator rod turned a couple of turns, this make me have to pre load the actuator rod so it fits the turbo button fitment.
Not being an expert on actuators I've done this.
Removed the old actuator. This 1 wasn't too hard to work the rod by hand. The new 1 I've fit is more difficult to work by hand so I'm assuming I'm gunna get more boost without pre loading the rod. I want to achieve 1.5 bar with out a bleed valve.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:43 pm
by buguy
Is there some reason you don't want a bleed valve? They are great. They let you hold the boost until the actual pressure is achieved. When i had my internal wastegate, it would start to open at 5-6 psi even though it had a 12 psi spring. Mine was instantly better installing the valve. It didn't really boost more (until i opened it up more) but it let it stay shut until i got the boost i wanted. No creep with the valve in place.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 8:11 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
Well. Maybe I have a crappy bleed valve. I could only turn it a 1/4 turn from closed if that and it would boost to the moon. Maybe a better one with more adjustability will sway my thinking. I have also moved all the vac pipes to the hats, before I had them coming off the actuator pipe which confused the fuel reg etc.

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:50 am
by GARRICK.CLARK1
I've just re fit the valve. Boost jumps over to 1.5 now. I'll have to fine tune it to just hit that number with a full foot full of throttle. Knocked the timing back some as well. It's hard to look at the boost gauge and the plx at the same time. Lol

Re: Boost limit.

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 10:18 am
by buguy
Haha! Yep. I used to try to take videos with my phone while driving. Doesn't work!