VW Bug 1963 Street Turbo

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VW Bug 1963 Street Turbo

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So I bought a replacement for my burned down drag bug project but I also wanted a street bug for summertime cruising!
And, I got this beauty! She is from -63, already 58 years old! With this one I need to take it easy with the modifications but I still miss that turbo whistle and that power :D

So to the actual thing:
I want to build a RELIABLE all street turbo engine. Maybe even with stock stroke? Any suggestions what route should I take?
The car cannot be cutted down in any way so everything has to fit to a stock bug under the decklid and it still needs to keep that original look. Intercooler will be really hard, atleast I think so. Also turbo propably has to go under the engine tins so either blow trough or EFI?
Also the reason I want to turbo this one too is that N/A power is expensive :lol: So what I really want is best bang for the buck with good power/reliability ratio.

So give me your best advice for this to build!

I bought her completly stock and swapped the wheels for genuine Lemmerz Sprintstars, 4" wide front and 5.5" rear. New steering wheel and those really sexy seat covers haha :D
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Re: Need suggestions for this street bug

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I'd say copy clonebug's setup, he's shown what relatively stock engines with boost can handle for years. Nice new bug it looks nice, and my favorite shade of paint:)
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V8Nate wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:21 pm I'd say copy clonebug's setup, he's shown what relatively stock engines with boost can handle for years. Nice new bug it looks nice, and my favorite shade of paint:)
Thank you! Really love this one too, this one is definely a keeper! Paid only 3000€ for it and have been dailying it since purchase! :)
A lot of rust fixing to do but in Finland the winter is long and dark so plenty of time for engine work too :D
I was thinking about going for I/H beam rods, mahle pistons and barrels and maybe panchito heads :?:
Just need to hear from you guys before I make any purchases or anything haha
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Hey Ville, wonder what happened to you? :lol:
if you're not stuck on a stock 69mm crank ? May I suggest a 78mm short rods(porsche length)
92 thich walls ,I've run cheapass AA Hypers up to 20 lbs. :lol:
fk 8 advanced 4* you won't be disappointed with this combo :wink:
should fit under the bonnet
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I'm all for a stock engine with a turbo. Mine was awesome. Figure out a way to run some big boost and you won't be disappointed! I was using e85 and ran 30 psi of boost. It was plenty fast. I'm guessing 220hp or so.
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Thanks for the ideas guys. I'm seriously considering going EFI aswell so would the best bet for a street engine to get motorcycle ITB's or just go for one center mounted throttlebody?
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Best is relative. ITB's are probably best, but a single is cheaper and easier to plumb.
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buguy wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:08 am Best is relative. ITB's are probably best, but a single is cheaper and easier to plumb.
After reading about this I made a choice to go for single and for similar style intake I had on my draw through setup.
2" intake piping and 50-55mm throttlebody will propably be okay with CB's high flow end pieces and 044 CNC mini wedgeport heads :)
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What size engine?
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buguy wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:56 am What size engine?
90.5x69 1776cc since I already have welded CW stock crank
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Makes sense. 50mm and 2" intake should be just fine for that.
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Preparing my crankcase for machining. Going to do it myself at the place where I work.
This crankcase is from the old turbo build. Measured everything and it was all good exept the place where the pulley is. Going to fix it by machining in a sand seal. Just have to do sand seal, open it up for 90.5mm barrels and machine the deck.
That being said, what is the exact measurement I need to machine the case to fit 90.5mm mahle barrels?

Also got this book yesterday, only paid 20€ for it :D
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I have that book too ,kind of big advertisement for C.B.performance :lol: outdated for sure but still fun to read :wink:
all my motors are together right now or I'd give ya some measurements :lol: check on the samba or on here? 'search' :lol:
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Here ya goImage
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V8Nate wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:12 am Here ya goImage
Thank you for this. After looking for the case measurements I found two different ones. 94.5mm (same as in your message) and 96mm. Which one is correct for Mahle set with B Pistons?
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