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Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2001 3:06 pm
by D.Derkson
What about converting the car to 65 or newer drums on the rear and discs yr? on the front???
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2001 3:37 pm
by mikeb
There are no "stock" wide 5 disc brakes out there so don't look for a year of car to swap them off of.
If you want to convert to "factory" disc brakes you will run into problems getting the ball joint parts to fit your king pin spindles and you'll have the 4x130 lug pattern.
You only have a few choices for the wide 5 front discs.
Neal, CNC, other off road disc brake kits run about $500 for the set but are not meant for "highway" use.
The wide 5 kit from So Cal, CSP, or others run about $1000 and are meant for the street.
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2001 5:15 pm
by Cpt Zoomy
My wide 5 disc setup is from csp...easy install looks and great and huge performance increase!
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1/4 in 11's .... no problem.
http://www.strictlygerman.atfreeweb.com
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2001 8:37 am
by Aircooled_vw
Porsche 356C disks will 'bolt in'. The fronts can directly swap spindles from the king-pins out.
I'm not positive on the rears but if it's not a direct swap then the hubs would be the trouble point. Rear hubs may need to be turned down to fit the Beetle rear axle. Like I say, not sure about the rears.
The big problem (for some folks) is that you get stuck with the Porsche 5x130mm bolt circle and can no longer run your stock 5x205mm rims. Well, that and the fact that dead 356C don't exactly growing on trees.
Rick
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2001 4:08 pm
by Tristessa
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mikeb:
<B>If you want to convert to "factory" disc brakes you will run into problems getting the ball joint parts to fit your king pin spindles and you'll have the 4x130 lug pattern.
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So does anybody know exactly *what* the difference is between the BJ and KP spindles? By this I mean the part that the bearings go onto. Different diameter for the inner/outer bearing(s)? Spacing between the races? I don't have a BJ Bug handy to measure things.
I've done some initial research on finding disc brakes that can be adapted to the kingpin frontend, but haven't had the time or money to go anywhere with it yet.
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2001 9:53 am
by TomB
The German made wide-5 discs for link pin that used to sell for $1000 are now available from vwparts.com for about $475. They have versions for different suspension combinations. Add about 1/2" track per side to stock suspensions.
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2001 7:20 am
by Paul Illick
I couldn't find any aircooled parts at vwparts.com. What is it I'm not doing right?
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 12:09 am
by TomB
Sorry - had a Senior Moment. Go to
www.partsvw.com and click on the HotVW AD and go to page 3. They have both 4 and 5 lug discs, and the 5 lug for almost all years and styles. They do require changing to a dual master cylinder (67 up style), but that's a good idea anyway. This site is for VWCalImports.
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 3:07 am
by No1uknw
Im assuming the 67 up master cylinder just bolts on right? Im thinking of doing this also to the 58 Im getting
No1uknw
Disc brakes on the 57
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2001 8:37 pm
by TomB
The 67^ master does bolt on, but needs a dual circuit reservoir and the lines fasten a bit differently. The 67 reservoir was up front like the older bugs, but the later model mounted upon the left quarter panel, and hoses went down beside the fuel tank... But just try to find a 67 version.