4spd Wagon?? Does it exist ?

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4spd Wagon?? Does it exist ?

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Not in North America, but where? [/quote][/u][/i][/b]
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raygreenwood
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Yes and no. I had a 4 speed wagon for 3 years. In Europe, many of the wagons...and most 411/412 in general, were 4 speed. The body is identical. All of the holes and fittings to run every known option are already in every type 4 body built. When I wrecked my 4 speed 4 door 412...(yes it was not originally 4 speed either)....the tranny went to my wagon. That one had terminal rust in the front end...so I finally aquired a 2 door 4 speed fastback.

If you have the 4 speed tranny and the pedal cluster, and the shifter and shiftrod, linkage, slave and master cylinders....its about a 4 hour job with the engine already out. The shifter drops in where the auto shifter did. It bolts right up. The shift rod occupies the same space in the tunnel. It simply has a different centering guide plate at the rear. The bracket for the front shiftrod bushing is already welded in at the factory. The holesfor the clutch hydraulic tube are already welded in...they are plugged with plastic plugs and undercoated over. The pedal cluster is the same...it just has a longer shaft and an extra pedal. Those pedals can be gotten from an Audi 4000...with very slight mods. The drillings to mount the clutch master to the pedal cluster are already in it. The 4 speed drops right in.

If you happen to find a totalled 2 door..take everything including the tubing for the hydraulics (it comes apart in 2 sections). Of course...if the 2 door is in good shape...get it instead. It is much more desirable than the other two. Ray
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nick sparrow
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type 4 manual gearboxes..in a wagon

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Ihave owned several mainly for parts for my daily driver 1974 412LS.....which I still have; I also have a four speed 411 . I have also seen quite a few 411 wagons that have four speed boxes, here in New Zealand. I believe there are quite a few in South Africa, they may of even been assembled there as well. :)
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Post by Davidf »

Hi if you need a pedal cluster, i have one remove from a 1973 wagon 4 spd.

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Post by Pine »

....not only assembled here in South Africa, but completely built from 1969 to 1974. I assume they were basically the same as the other Type IVs in the world, but our cars didn't have the luxuries like headrests, Eberspachers, factory sun roofs or aircons - not even as an optional accessory. They also had only the D-Jetronic EFI system, not the L-Jetronic and only available as 1679cc. I guess about 50/50 manual and automatic models were built.

Regards from Sunny South Africa

Pine
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