I've heard its the type 4, but that cant be, because in many of liturature, it says it comes with an engine that had displacements of 1.7, 1.8, and 2.0, and they all had fuel injection!?!?!?!?!?! how could this be if the car was in the 70s, I have no clue, but a little help here would be good.
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what engine comes with the 914????
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stevestromberg
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The Bosch FI was used by VW starting in 1968 Type3.All 914's sold in the USA were FI. 1.7,2.0 were D-tronic, 1.8 L-tronic.All 914 motors have dipstick on top of case and fuel pump boss is not drilled and tapped.Steve
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Chris_914
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Type IV Engine Models
The 1.7 was available from 70-73
The 1.8 was available from 74-76
The 2.0 was available from 73-76
Porsche Engine Models
The 2.0 flat six was available from 70-72
The porsche 912 was revived for the 76 model year as the 912E (2.0 injected) to deplete remaining engine stock for the discontinued 914.
All US model 914s were fuel injected with exception to the six cylinder models, which had two triple barrel webers. (the vw type IIIs were injected in '68) The euro spec 914s came with two 40mm single barrel solex carbs. The 1.7 and 2.0 engines came with bosch D-jettronic (manifold pressure controled) while the 1.8 came with L-jetronic (air flow controled, similar to the beetle injection).
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The 1.7 was available from 70-73
The 1.8 was available from 74-76
The 2.0 was available from 73-76
Porsche Engine Models
The 2.0 flat six was available from 70-72
The porsche 912 was revived for the 76 model year as the 912E (2.0 injected) to deplete remaining engine stock for the discontinued 914.
All US model 914s were fuel injected with exception to the six cylinder models, which had two triple barrel webers. (the vw type IIIs were injected in '68) The euro spec 914s came with two 40mm single barrel solex carbs. The 1.7 and 2.0 engines came with bosch D-jettronic (manifold pressure controled) while the 1.8 came with L-jetronic (air flow controled, similar to the beetle injection).
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Chris_914
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Steve,
I believe the K-jetronic was the CIS mechanical injection.
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I believe the K-jetronic was the CIS mechanical injection.
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stevestromberg
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The L-tronic uses a Air mass sensor, the D-tronic uses manifold pressure, CIS uses air flow thur the intake control box to very the amount of fuel (on CIS the injectors are always open the amount of fuel is varied), 912E uses L, while the 76 914 2.0 uses D. Steve
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VRSICK
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You guys aren't speaking my language. Is the engine that came in the 914 a type 4 or not?
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VRSICK
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Ok, well I see that you are the man to talkj to with this whole type 4 thing, so jake, what do you think I should do to the engine?? or get a different one??
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tuna
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VRSICK,
As the others have pointed out, the four cylinder 914s did indeed use the Type 4 engine. The 914 was jointly developed by VW and Porsche.
The engine was only slightly modified to work in the 914. This included new engine tin, using the dipstick and oil filler from the 411 sedans, and a 914 only flywheel to mate to the transaxle. Other than those points, it essentially the same engine as the ones used in the VW 411/412 series and the later model VW Transporters (Busses).
As far as I know, VW was the first to mass produce a passenger car with fuel injection. There were others that used it before, but only in really small numbers (the '57 Chevy with FI comes to mind). The Type 3 series received the FI in '68, the Type 4 and 914 in '70, and the Beetle and Transporter in '75.
So, what type of car are you looking to build and what do you want out of the engine? This is a pretty helpful group here in the Type4rum, but we can't read minds.
Tuna
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If you want to learn more about the Type 4 engine, check out my website at
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As the others have pointed out, the four cylinder 914s did indeed use the Type 4 engine. The 914 was jointly developed by VW and Porsche.
The engine was only slightly modified to work in the 914. This included new engine tin, using the dipstick and oil filler from the 411 sedans, and a 914 only flywheel to mate to the transaxle. Other than those points, it essentially the same engine as the ones used in the VW 411/412 series and the later model VW Transporters (Busses).
As far as I know, VW was the first to mass produce a passenger car with fuel injection. There were others that used it before, but only in really small numbers (the '57 Chevy with FI comes to mind). The Type 3 series received the FI in '68, the Type 4 and 914 in '70, and the Beetle and Transporter in '75.
So, what type of car are you looking to build and what do you want out of the engine? This is a pretty helpful group here in the Type4rum, but we can't read minds.
Tuna
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If you want to learn more about the Type 4 engine, check out my website at
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Bleyseng
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You haven't said what type of car you have or are you planning to buy? If you are planning to buy, get the a car with NO RUST!!! The favorite model is the 73 914 2.0L. This car has all the goodies (appearance pkg, sway bars, 95hp etc) as stock. The 74 2.0L is next if it has the goodies. I like the later cars (75-76) with the bigger bumpers but look for a 2.0L car with all the options.
If you are going to rebuild the motor, Jake has his favorite the 2270cc (96x78). I am not sure if this motor can use the Djet FI, probably with mods. I run a 2.1L (96x71) and still use the Djet with no problems.
If you are going to use carbs, then built a 2270 with a carb cam, headers, and get the hp up to 150 using Jake as the builder.
I prefer the FI for a daily driver as it is a great system with very little troubles. It is easy to fix and trouble shoot providing lots of low and midrange hp but it runs out of hp above 5000rpm with the stock engine.
Also the early cars (70-72) came with a tail shifter trans and are interesting to shift to say the least. Later, cars came with a side shifter trans that if maintained shifts nicely.
Geoff
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If you are going to rebuild the motor, Jake has his favorite the 2270cc (96x78). I am not sure if this motor can use the Djet FI, probably with mods. I run a 2.1L (96x71) and still use the Djet with no problems.
If you are going to use carbs, then built a 2270 with a carb cam, headers, and get the hp up to 150 using Jake as the builder.
I prefer the FI for a daily driver as it is a great system with very little troubles. It is easy to fix and trouble shoot providing lots of low and midrange hp but it runs out of hp above 5000rpm with the stock engine.
Also the early cars (70-72) came with a tail shifter trans and are interesting to shift to say the least. Later, cars came with a side shifter trans that if maintained shifts nicely.
Geoff
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Dave_Darling
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The only four-cylinder 914s that came with carbs from the factory were the Euro-spec 1.8s. All of the rest, including the Euro-spec 2.0s, came with FI. The US-spec 1.8 was the first car ever to use Bosch's L-jetronic EFI. All of the 1.7s, and all of the 2.0s, used Bosch's proven D-jetronic EFI. (Proven by a number of years running on the Type III.)
The Euro-spec 1.8s came with Solex 40 PDSIT carbs, a pair of single-throats as Chris said.
The L-jet uses an air-flow sensor, not really an air-mass sensor. (The "hot wire anemometer" is more of an air mass sensor than the "swinging barn door" is.)
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The Euro-spec 1.8s came with Solex 40 PDSIT carbs, a pair of single-throats as Chris said.
The L-jet uses an air-flow sensor, not really an air-mass sensor. (The "hot wire anemometer" is more of an air mass sensor than the "swinging barn door" is.)
--DD