I need help oil burning fresh motor

a_unkown · Post by **a_unkown** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 5:19 pm

Help! I am an 30 year experienced enthusiast who just rebuilt a '73 2.0 and it smokes blue and burns oil like mad. A quart every 50 miles os so. I have only run it about 100 miles. Here is what I did: new valves, guides, used (well within spec's) cylinders with Total Seal rings, Scat A20 cam, heavy duty valve springs, 009 distributor etc. Weber 44IDF's with the recommended jetting. It went together nicely and runs great! Any ideas on all of the smoke? I followed the "How to rebuild your VW" book break in procedure, it said to run it for 20 minutes at 2,000 to 2,500 rpm. It acts like either the rings did not seat or it is sucking oil by the guides. The folks who make Total Seal rings say that I should have installed valve guide seals. I did not know that seals existed for these guides, plus it seems unlikely because of the position if the guides they are not submerged in oils as in some OHC engines. Please offer any comments that you can before I have to take the beast apart. Reply to: boelenb@chesterton.com.

Thanks!

Steve Arndt · Post by **Steve Arndt** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 5:36 pm

The Break In article at www.aircooled.net says to climb a long grain that loads the engine 4 or 5 times to really load the engine and get the p/c assembly hot. This might help them bed in.

What oil did you use for break in? Assembly?

Steve

mwaz · Post by **mwaz** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 9:29 pm

I've got a similar problem myself. Burns a quart in ~60-70 miles and runs great. Funny thing, it smoked with Grant rings ever since I built the engine 2 years ago for the first time. I tore it down last year, put in Total Seal and replaced the guides & valves using the same brand(they were hammered from single spring valve float). Put it back together with dual springs and carefully broke it in. To my supprise - no change - still runs great,still burns the same amount of oil! What's going on?

Joe Culley · Post by **Joe Culley** » Thu Apr 12, 2001 9:48 pm

I have had the same problem reringing a type 4 engine and reman heads
the cyl walls looked almost new so I just got a set of rings to freshen it up.
The thing smoked like a crop duster! neither I nor the customer was not happy. I almost tore it back down. we tried running plain old 30 wt non deturgent oil. after about one thousand miles it showed some signs of improvment and by 2 k itwas at an acceptable level
I beleive that the cyls getslightly out of round from the heat and the rings just can't conform to that. next time I'll just replace the barrels too

Ron · Post by **Ron** » Sat Apr 14, 2001 12:29 am

I'm thinking cylinders not true. I've had two engines do this, too. Makes you kind of disgusted. Great for mosquito control.

Bobtail · Post by **Bobtail** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 4:55 am

Don't believe all you read.
Total seal? rings don't seem to work on anything.
However stock rings are just fine.
Ask the man who is turning 300 bhp in a daily driver.
You can buy stock rings from anywhere!!

Karman · Post by **Karman** » Mon Apr 16, 2001 8:39 am

Sorry guys, this one is not for general knowledge, I hate to tease you....But I will sell them to you.

Are these the Deves rings? How much for a set for the KB 96's?