Taking my 1.7 412 to a 2.0

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DeathBus
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Taking my 1.7 412 to a 2.0

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Wanna keep the injection, can I just use 914 or Bus 2 litre injectors?

What do I need to do with the tranny?

Also the dummy I bought the car from, THREW AWAY THE AC AND THE EBERSPACHER, (said he didnt understand them). This causing fumes to enter the cabin and give me the burned dashwood look, Am I going to play Hell trying to replace these Items?
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Actually, you will probably find that changing the injectors will do little. On the charts, the 1.7/1.8 automatic injectors actually flow more lbs per hour. The difference is that the 2.0 injectors may have a little higher cycle rate capability. Get the entire intake system from the 2.0 and keep it on D-jet. Its not really that hard to make as much power with the stock 1.7 as the 2.0 914 did. Of course by that same token...if done right you can get an extra 20 HP from the 2.0 as well. Personally, I would keep the 1.7 heads...have them carefully ported, put 42 x 36 valves in, a web cam, all of the 2.0 intake runner, plenum and TB system, do some balance work on the fuel supply, keep the 1.7 injection...its identical anyway...save for tuning on the MPS...or just get a 914 2.0 MPS, either way. Ray
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Hey Have you checked this site out?

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Hey have you checked this site out?
http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/Dj ... .htm#parts
It talks about the 1.7 to 2.0 I think?
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Yep, fabulous site. Tons of info. Ray
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Crappy smell from your heater

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You probably have oily, grimey schmutz down in the heater boxes that is getting hot and causing the stink.

On a bug, I once removed the heater boxes, which had someone got some of that oily crud in them, and I used a bottle brush and low-pressure setting on a power sprayer to clean them out. Remember, "Dawn Takes Grease Out of Your Way" and is my favorite degreaser as it doesn't usually require much work. You could probably clean out the heat channels on any VW by putting a wad of rags on a flexible "poker" like a snake for cleaning out a drain, and getting the accumulated crud out of there, too. The heater channels would be most easily cleaned when you have the heater boxes and flexible rubber hoses that go between the heater flap and the channel off the car.

If you want to get more heat from your car w/o hooking up the gas heater, wire the heater blower fan that's back by the engine cooling fan into a switch on the dash. I have done this as my gas heater isn't currently working, and I get decent heat (well, relative to other air cooled VWs!) even in really chilly months. I toyed with the idea of getting a 3-speed fan switch off of an early '70s Super Beetle so that I could have more control over the blower force, but so far it's just a thought.

As for AC, the under dash units are HARD to find! I'd l love to have one myself as the AC components are all there excepting the underdash unit. Watch junk yards.

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Te fumes and soot problem usually coming from an eberspacher system are from the o-ring around the "turbocharger" leaking fuel into the heat exchanger chamber, or from the brass bushing on the temperature cut-off probe leaking into the heat exchanger area. These would have been easy fixes. Yes...you will have a heck of a time replacing these parts. They can be had not too big of a problem. But, they will be expensive. Ray
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raygreenwood wrote:Te fumes and soot problem usually coming from an eberspacher system are from the o-ring around the "turbocharger" leaking fuel into the heat exchanger chamber, or from the brass bushing on the temperature cut-off probe leaking into the heat exchanger area. These would have been easy fixes. Yes...you will have a heck of a time replacing these parts. They can be had not too big of a problem. But, they will be expensive. Ray


No I am MISSING the whole EBerspacher... the only thing left are the holes for it, causing the exhaust fumes to come up into the cab of the car especially when the windows are down.... YUK :cry:
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Uh...well...that could cause an exhaust leakage issue as well I would think. Look around. These systems in various condition get sold on Ebay and other places all the time. Or you could just plug the holes and freeze...... 8) Ray
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Post by Vgonman »

I have a unit i removed from a 411............I might could part with it.......pmail me...I kept it for my backup for my resto..............
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