Brake master cylinders

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ubercrap
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Brake master cylinders

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OK, I was looking around autopartsgiant.com, and though they don't have brake master cylinder rebuild kits, they do show both new and rebuilt ones. I was skeptical about whether they are the right ones, but then I noticed that the rebuilt ones by A1 CARDONE had a picture and appeared to be the right ones! I ordered a couple and I'll let you know what I get.

Edit: Oh yeah, and they were only $27.47 each.
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What a find if it works out!
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I hope so! This is vwbill's "find" really I guess since he listed the site in the vendors.
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Wow, I asked about this last month. Ended up buying a $200 new cylinder from Germany through a part store back east. It was not a match and now I am dealing with returning it! Would love to hear how that works for you!
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Getting new cylinders from FAG or ATE dealers is not really a problem. They will be about $200 though. Also, the rebuilt ones are done on demand only with about 4-6 weeks turn time...for not much less than new. Ray
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Ray, what do those acronyms stand for :?:
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I believe ATE is Alfred Teves and FAG is Fischer Aktien-Gesellschaft.
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ubercrap wrote:I believe ATE is Alfred Teves and FAG is Fischer Aktien-Gesellschaft.
I use FAG bearings everyday in my Job, they are VERY FINE quality products.
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Yes....ATE is Alfred Teves. FAG means..... Fahrghust (sp)... AG. That company has an even different acronym. It is FAG kugelfischer, Georg Schafer. I don't know if Kugelfischer/Schafer has always been a part of it or not.

It was originally a sewing machine manufacturer...and still is. It does bearings, hydraulics, electronics. Huge. I believe they also possibly absobed Fafnir bearings....or was that SKF absorbed Fafnir...Hmmm. Ray
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It was SKF.

I have used both SKF bearings and FAG and there is just no comparison, FAG makes the better product. SKF's "sealed" bearings dont hold up to dirt and grit like FAG's.
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Anonymous wrote:It was SKF.

I have used both SKF bearings and FAG and there is just no comparison, FAG makes the better product. SKF's "sealed" bearings dont hold up to dirt and grit like FAG's.
That was me, log in monster got me. :oops:
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Yeah, I tend to agree. Though in the larger older bearngs , I have found some exceedingly fine product in SKF, I have generally found more consistant product in the FAG. In the junkyards, when you part out a 411/412...be damn sure to rob the rear wheel bearings and races. If they are not rusted, generally a 25 year old FAG or SKF bearing will just be peachy. I have about 10 spare bearing and race sets I keep in a bucket of dexron II. All you can get now is Timken if lucky...or CR. Ray
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TIMKEN.... yuck, the only thing Timken ever made well were paper wieghts.
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