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Source for Deutz Diesel cylinders?
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:02 pm
by Piledriver
Anyone have a source for these jugs, preferably in used/raw form in the US?
Anywhere?
Prefer the 100mm finished size ones, but the 103s will work.
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:53 am
by Piledriver
Found a source, $20 ea for used jugs.
It appears they don't rebore them.
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:19 am
by Piledriver
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:01 pm
by MnMike
How big are you going? I did a search on Deutz and found some info, seen a big old type 4 project using duetz cylinders on here. How about some specs?
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:31 am
by Piledriver
The motor I have planned is a T4, but I thought the source might be useful for a wasser...
The Deutz "912" jugs are 100mm std, the "913" jugs are 102s std.
I'm planning on 101.6x66, 5.7 chevy 2.1 journal H-beams (perhaps longer, depending
on what pistons I can get) with the big ends resized to T4/1.7 size. (2140cc)
I figure some poor Cheby racer must occasionally lose a motor and have 4 good rods/pistons left from the rubble...
(or have the 66 crank reground to 2.1 chevy, probably a wash)
The bolts going the "wrong" way shouldn't be an issue with the 66 crank.
The idea is to have the strongest stiffest crank possible...
(It's what every guy wants ;->)
The T4 66 stroke cranks are probably the strongest/stiffest cranks VW ever made, and should be good to 8K with light pistons and H-beams.
have wanted to try something with the head seal, am going to try it with these jugs, as they shouldn't suck like typical 103 cast irons do.
(step cut 1.7 heads to increase head seal metal cross section)
These will be set up in a 103 T4 register, very thick walls, and probably use gas filled metal o-rings.
Plan is ~10:1 CR, and then some boost, lots of squish area.
Thinking 86a/86b x116 ish dual pattern cam.
Boost and a 163/86c would probably not play well...
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:02 am
by MnMike
Sounds interesting.....I ordered a set of 101.6 cylinders from Kona Fleming, they are AA automotive, fully finned and should slip on wbx stud pattern. Still in the planning phase on mine, kinda watching out for a good deal on a BIG crank, or I have an 82 vw journal that could get offset ground and wedged.....I have been planning on using ported AF heads, so I could play on the street a bit. Should be up and running in a year or two...
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:32 am
by TorfinnS
I have used some deutz sylinders myself, the only problem is that they are a little soft and will not last for a long time.
But they are cheap.
Here in Norway we use sylinders from Volvo TD70 truck engines without fins.
Then we use Pontiac 455 +060 pistons in them apx 106,5 mm bore.
This will not be good for street use but in Autocross it is perfect.