Exhaust Stud R & R?
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:13 am
I'm making continual progress on the three Things I'm working on. However, as soon as I resolve one issue with one vehicle, something else pops up to takes its place.
The best of the two '73's in the inventory went for a road test of about ten miles two evenings ago after adjusting the valves and bleeding the brakes. The moral of this saga is if it's gonna run, it better be able to stop. The owner discovered this on a two mile trip to his farm the weekend before to perform a much needed and long deserved pressure washing to hose down years of oil, road dirt, and crud in the lower engine compartment area. It's about 75% better than it was, but could still use another blast or two before we get things back to reasonable cleanness to perform some basic maintenance.
Anyway, the road trip reinforced some earlier suspicions about the exhaust system noted when setting the valves. Some unusual noise and sound pitches from odd areas of the running engine led me to believe we either had loose or broken exhaust studs/nuts. Since we had planned to replace top side intake gaskets before this exhaust problem reared its head, and the two systems share in the joining of the preheating pipe for the intake manifold, we decided to completely remove the exhaust system (original factory two muffler set-up), and have a look at what the problem(s) might be.
Last night, I accomplished this task with medium difficulty. Results: 3 already broken off studs, 1 badly worn stud (flange stud hole wear), and 1 stud totally half assed with some American self threading bolt which I haven't taken the time to determine the threading. Let's see ...that's a 62.5% problem/replacement issue. Glad I'm not gambling, I'd be losing my butt.
The three broken studs are protruding approximately 1/4-5/16" from the head surface. The worn one should be replaced. The half assed bolted stud hole will likely require a 10 x 8 stud because of the what I would assume is the supremely messed up original 8 mm threading in the head. Additionally, I have two broken bolts in the right rear manifold where the preheat manifold joins the exhaust system. These shouldn't be much of a problem to remove as the piece can be easily taken to the drill press and accessed. The exhaust studs may be an entirely different problem however. We have no plans to remove the engine at this point if we can somehow struggle to do this R & R in place.
Any advice and hints from those of you Thingers who have also likely encountered this sticky problem???
Is the steel exhaust stud mounted to the aluminum head, about the same kind of general issue as the use of chromoly push rods in a aluminum engine? i.e. will the aluminum head expand at a faster rate than the broken stud if the area is heated, thus facilitating or easing removal? I would assume liberal doses of penetrating oil will be required also.
I am a willing student... if there are any tenured exhaust stud R & R professors out there willing to lecture.
ztnoo
The best of the two '73's in the inventory went for a road test of about ten miles two evenings ago after adjusting the valves and bleeding the brakes. The moral of this saga is if it's gonna run, it better be able to stop. The owner discovered this on a two mile trip to his farm the weekend before to perform a much needed and long deserved pressure washing to hose down years of oil, road dirt, and crud in the lower engine compartment area. It's about 75% better than it was, but could still use another blast or two before we get things back to reasonable cleanness to perform some basic maintenance.
Anyway, the road trip reinforced some earlier suspicions about the exhaust system noted when setting the valves. Some unusual noise and sound pitches from odd areas of the running engine led me to believe we either had loose or broken exhaust studs/nuts. Since we had planned to replace top side intake gaskets before this exhaust problem reared its head, and the two systems share in the joining of the preheating pipe for the intake manifold, we decided to completely remove the exhaust system (original factory two muffler set-up), and have a look at what the problem(s) might be.
Last night, I accomplished this task with medium difficulty. Results: 3 already broken off studs, 1 badly worn stud (flange stud hole wear), and 1 stud totally half assed with some American self threading bolt which I haven't taken the time to determine the threading. Let's see ...that's a 62.5% problem/replacement issue. Glad I'm not gambling, I'd be losing my butt.
The three broken studs are protruding approximately 1/4-5/16" from the head surface. The worn one should be replaced. The half assed bolted stud hole will likely require a 10 x 8 stud because of the what I would assume is the supremely messed up original 8 mm threading in the head. Additionally, I have two broken bolts in the right rear manifold where the preheat manifold joins the exhaust system. These shouldn't be much of a problem to remove as the piece can be easily taken to the drill press and accessed. The exhaust studs may be an entirely different problem however. We have no plans to remove the engine at this point if we can somehow struggle to do this R & R in place.
Any advice and hints from those of you Thingers who have also likely encountered this sticky problem???
Is the steel exhaust stud mounted to the aluminum head, about the same kind of general issue as the use of chromoly push rods in a aluminum engine? i.e. will the aluminum head expand at a faster rate than the broken stud if the area is heated, thus facilitating or easing removal? I would assume liberal doses of penetrating oil will be required also.
I am a willing student... if there are any tenured exhaust stud R & R professors out there willing to lecture.
ztnoo