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This is something I think I know what it is but I am not sure at the same time. I think it was my grandfathers’ who was a machinist and retired in 1956 I think. It could have been my fathers’ but I kind of suspect it isn’t. What I think it is is a portable lightweight tin bender.

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This is the side where everything happens.

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This is the working end.

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The rear lever is a friction lock to the other lever you see which raises and lowers the jaws of the tool.

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This is the jaws in the fully open position. I didn’t measure the gap but the working load has to be a lot less than how far the jaws open.

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The jaw handle pressed down to hold the material to be bent and the friction lock in place.

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The lift and bend to any angle you want… within reason.

Does this sound right or is my guess wrong. There is something on the jaws but it is faint so I put it in my blast cabinet to see if anything would show up with the paint removed. Nada! A magnet does (weakly) stick to it if that makes a difference… pot metal?

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very nice Lee its still hasnt changed much over the years .I would like to have it for my colection.its probably cast steel .
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Ol'fogasaurus wrote:I think it was my grandfathers’
I think it's for scraping snow off of horse's hooves. Snow and ice were worse back then, as they were walking 10 miles, one way, to school in the dark, uphill, both ways. But they were thankful. :lol:
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Looks like a leather working tool to me.
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I've never seen anything like this when I was doing leather but then I haven't see everything either. I don't think my grandfather was into that though; but it a possibility. With the two mounting, per side, holes this can't be a strong thing either, that is what I am trying to find out for sure before I use it and break it.

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I don't think it is intended to be portable. Those 4 holes in the base are countersunk, right? Normally, 4 countersunk holes are used for mounting an item to something more solid than itself. If it had another piece, the holes would, most likely, not be countersunk. So, I think it is some sort of stationary clamp.
In the days when your grandfather was machining, the machines he ran were most likely still belt driven. Maybe it is a clamp to hold an end of a belt while it is trimmed to length, then had a metal end with holes in it, attached. I am totally theorizing here, so feel free to call me out on this.
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Your guess is as good as mine and I don't know. He was in the Navy just after WWI then went to work in the shipyard as a machinist but I don't know what kind of machinist either. Maybe a cousin would know... I'll have to ask. His old tool box had a lot of plumbing stuff in it as well as some wood working things like hand saws. My father had it and it sat under an outside (car post) bench for almost 30 years. Everything inside was still good and not too much light rust. Don't know, don't know that's why the question!

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Temporary price sign hanger..... Floor mat hanger for a car wash..... rug hanger (So you could hang a rug and beat it with a broom...... It definitely looks like it was intended to be mounted and to hold onto something that would either hang, or be pulled on slightly. Strecthing device maybe?....


No Patent numbers on it????
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There is a cast in place there and I tried to see what it said, I tried cleaning off the top of the letters then I tried to lightly bead blast the area leaving a lot of paint still in the area. The area but is just too worn (or obliterated which I doubt as my grandfather was not that kind of person) to make anything out. The letter/ID area was just too poorly cast; e.g., not deep enough as what paint I removed was original paint as far as I can tell. I have seen some older castings that did have their logos not cast in well.

I just tested the area to see if my very light glass bead blasting may have done some damage (other than to the paint) and the metal is too hard to make that light bit of work I did do any damage other than to the enamel paint; the paint that was deep in casting pockets is still there so I don't think I harmed the casting as it is just as obscure as it was with paint. Also, it does not look like the casting has been repainted but does it look like it was attached to something at one time of another. I tried putting ink over the area then rubbing the top of each letter but the letters are just cast too low to read with one or two exceptions.

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I just brought it in to look at again and I put it under a 6" magnifying light. The upper jaws are marked with what looks like cuts and bangs along the whole length except in the center if the upper jaw which is smooth and worn up on the jaw kind of like sanding was done; this is just below the casting ID area. Looking closely at the ID area some of the letters look like they had been banged a lot or rust was there as they had rough tops, not like sanding obliteration but either rust or being banged but the paint was still there covering them before bead blasting.

The lower jaw looks to be largely untouched.

I can't think of anything that would require something like this other than maybe a note holder mounted on a wall. I do agree that it is designed to be attached to something but the two groups of holes are too close together to indicate it is designed for great pressures to be applied. After some of the thoughts given, I now question my thoughts that it is a lightweight bending tool (wishful thinking on my part I guess).

Max opening on the jaw is ~ 3/16th of an inch. Running a straight edge and feeling with fingers plus there are runs of the original paint that have not been worn off, in the wear area where the locking mechanism slides on the upper jaw lock and surfaces on the locking lever itself are not worn that much so the tool couldn't have been used too much. I thought it might be used to set the teeth on a saw but that is just a guess too; why the marks on the upper jaw and not the lower jaw. The width of the jaw is a bit over 9 1/2".

If anyone wants more pictures I can do that otherwise I think I have beat this to death too.

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Obviously clamp tool for sharpening saw blades.... It should be mounted vertically with clamp area up and with screw holes on side of work bench....

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Dale... sir, thank you very... very much. I really do appreciate the information on this. :D
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Cool!..... I like it when things come together. Clamp..... Hard to get a "grip" on things without holding them in your hands sometimes.
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still looks like a good pair of turning tongs to me LOL
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obviously, :roll:

old tools are fun, I bet lee could singlhandedly keep the ORF "name my junk thread" going for months
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Not! A lot of my old stuff grew legs and walked away or was borrowed by...

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