What's the most boost used

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bug66 wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:47 am


Do you question the dyno, or mock the driver? :mrgreen:

I am not sure, but has to be one of them as everyone knows 67s are fast so not the car :lol:

But one thing I always found odd is why mph is so low on your car for the hp, yes anyone can make a bad pass and ET suffers but mph normally is still near correct
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richie,uk wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:10 am
bug66 wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:47 am


Do you question the dyno, or mock the driver? :mrgreen:

I am not sure, but has to be one of them as everyone knows 67s are fast so not the car :lol:

But one thing I always found odd is why mph is so low on your car for the hp, yes anyone can make a bad pass and ET suffers but mph normally is still near correct
Agreed.

With 215/65 MH DOTs, 1,04 4th and 3.88 RP, it should do more than 217-219kph.

We think it might lacked some air flow to the turbo (VW Speedshop header, and filter on the turbo). Some vacuum happening?
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Re: What's the most boost used

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Maybe the dyno number was already calculated as engine hp?

Shame there wasn't a boost pressure running on the dyno sheet, as that would tell the tale (out of steam or not) a bit better still.
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Wally wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:20 pm Maybe the dyno number was already calculated as engine hp?

Shame there wasn't a boost pressure running on the dyno sheet, as that would tell the tale (out of steam or not) a bit better still.
It showed wheel hp (well torque and then a hp conversion based on torque and rpm). We tried a bit higher boost on the WG solenoid, but no gains.
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Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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It showed wheel hp
You're absolutely sure thats how it was read/measured, as the dyno sheet alone doesn't say one or the other. But if it is, I'll take your word for it of course!
bug66 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:25 am We tried a bit higher boost on the WG solenoid, but no gains.
That info alone doesn't mean that the turbo is done :wink: (boost pressure vs RPM does give more info to asses the turbo's 'breathing capability' imo)
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A back pressure gauge would have been fun on the old turbo.
Buy the 8 bar one 😄😄
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:lol: :lol:
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bug66 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:25 am
It showed wheel hp (well torque and then a hp conversion based on torque and rpm).

:roll:
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richie,uk wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:50 pm
bug66 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:25 am
It showed wheel hp (well torque and then a hp conversion based on torque and rpm).

:roll:

You can’t measure hp :wink:
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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bug66 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:12 am
richie,uk wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:50 pm
bug66 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:25 am
It showed wheel hp (well torque and then a hp conversion based on torque and rpm).

:roll:

You can’t measure hp :wink:
If you think that then why claim how much hp it has?
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richie,uk wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:23 pm
bug66 wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:12 am
richie,uk wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:50 pm
bug66 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:25 am
It showed wheel hp (well torque and then a hp conversion based on torque and rpm).

:roll:

You can’t measure hp :wink:
If you think that then why claim how much hp it has?
As you of course know, hp is just a calculated number from watts. The rollers or hub dyno measures the torque, and hp is converted/calculated from the torque the engine makes.

But we can of course disagree on the output of my last engine configuration, I know the dyno owner sat the correction factor for the flywheel conversion to 1.00.

And the first pull I did (on the same dyno as the 501/667 run) matched the numbers by a few percent when Trond had the car on a hub dyno. Same engine and transmission.
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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