The Aufgeladen Ghia

[Ol'fogasaurus]

The material mix on a sway bar as is the temper to it is going to be different than a piece of round stock.

This might help: https://www.bing.com/search?

Lee

[xzener]

Yup, if you remove the centre support a torsion bar would no longer hold up the car but would act like a sway bar. Typically the coilover kits used a solid bar with bearings each end to stop the trailing arm falling out the beam but not act as a sway bar.

More or less what I have setup now. I'm using through rods that connect the trailing arms as they would with the torsion rods (grub screws). They allow free articulation and don't effect the opposite side. I feel the car will be dramatically safer using the sway bar.

[V8Nate]

On my air ride setup I left the torsions in to hold the arms onto the beam but left the adjusters loose to free float. If I jack it up and put a block under one tire it will lift the other when I lower the jack but it isn't as fast acting as a true sway bar would act due to the torsions having to twist before it would move. I would think if you added a few more of the center clamps to the torsion pack it would stiffen it

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[xzener]

How would the "through rods" being "tied" in place.

Not sure what the term "through rods' are. The term is old and I suspect it has many uses.

Lee

Just looked it up and the word goes back to at least 1850 but the meanings/use probably have changed over the years.



Lee

I have a set similar to these... https://limebug.com/product/t1-titan-ge ... ough-rods/ I was just curious if anyone tried solid ones that could act as a sway bar. Gonna keep my sway bar in place.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

The through-rods you posted were not what I expected to see. They replace the torsion bars and hold the front spindles within the front beam and do the same for the rear suspension.

The through-rods do no work other than the clamping the front suspension (spindles) together, while the shocks do most of what the torsion bars did.

The sway bars would do some of the work the front torsion bars do and the same for the rear torsion bars.

For the street, ... maybe this would be OK but for off-road... I doubt it. Not sure about racing of a lot of the types of that out there it is probably going to be a toss-up to some and an "OH (nasty word) to others.

Again, the materials mix and the making of the bars is going to be the main players of this. In the making of metal, of almost any type it is not just one material, but several materials mixed together (properly and to proper material mixes [e.g. quantities of each of the materials]) that gives strength et al.

For what it is worth, Lee.

[xzener]

Thanks for that Lee. So, I've been doing some measuring in the rear. Looking for a 13" coilover ride height. I think I found one that will work. Unfortunately, my scale only goes up to 450lbs so I can't measure the weight for the spring tension calculation. Found a 650lbs one... Do you think the rear corners weigh more than 650??

So, here is a picture of my rear shock relocators. Taken from the floor looking up. These are made of bulky 3/8" steel and gives good strength for the weight. Have the torsion bars installed in the rear, minimal spring tension for added support. The upper shock mount is tied to my truss bar for added strength. This setup worked very well for the air ride.

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[xzener]

Bought a fog intake leak tester. The engine has not run right since installing it. Started with removing the air cleaner. Found a leak at the SC inlet. Removed the outlet of the SC, found a HUGE leak where the end cap meets the head. Which explains a fuel leak I couldn't find... I was thinking it was the fuel rail. Fuel was being blown out, which caused the fuel to drip down under the car. Fixed all intake leaks. Engine runs very smoothly with a solid 10lbs of vacuum.

Now to finish the suspension so I can get this thing on the road and tune her.

[Chip Birks]

Glad you got the leak figured out. Stuff like that is super frustrating! Good luck with the suspension work!