Transmission Pics VW/Non-VW used in bugs, vans, etc.
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Transmission Pics VW/Non-VW used in bugs, vans, etc.
I was wondering if it would serve the fellas here to create a sticky that had pics of the various NON VW tranmissions available for Bugs, Vans, Conversions etc. Regular VW transmission pic as well will help identify.
In that way fellas could Identify Porsche 901 tail shifters from side shifters.
915 early and 915 late.
G 50s
Suby
Hewland
And God knows what else we could use......
Pictures are so much better than text when trying to explain what works and why it works... And why it doesn't.
In that way fellas could Identify Porsche 901 tail shifters from side shifters.
915 early and 915 late.
G 50s
Suby
Hewland
And God knows what else we could use......
Pictures are so much better than text when trying to explain what works and why it works... And why it doesn't.
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Here is a great link from the Samba on this subject.
It was a sticky..........
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143138
It was a sticky..........
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143138
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Critical assembly-order photos?
I like the idea of having photos that show the correct assembly of some of the parts that can be assembled either way.
For example, 3/4 sliders and hubs, 4th gears, energizer springs etc.
Also all those things that fly apart, and you cant remeber how they were...damn 091 shifter springs...
This will be good for first timers when they need help they can log on and find things easily
without wasting too much time on a search(if they have been posted in the past)
For example, 3/4 sliders and hubs, 4th gears, energizer springs etc.
Also all those things that fly apart, and you cant remeber how they were...damn 091 shifter springs...
This will be good for first timers when they need help they can log on and find things easily
without wasting too much time on a search(if they have been posted in the past)
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Re: Critical assembly-order photos?
That was easy, next..........dangerous wrote:I like the idea of having photos that show the correct assembly of some of the parts that can be assembled either way.
For example, 3/4 sliders and hubs, 4th gears, energizer springs etc.
Also all those things that fly apart, and you cant remeber how they were...damn 091 shifter springs...
This will be good for first timers when they need help they can log on and find things easily
without wasting too much time on a search(if they have been posted in the past)
http://www.longenterprises.com/diagram_ ... amlist.htm
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Ok...
The only problem with pictures is with the three typical beetle trannies and three bus trannies typically used in most
applications, that would be a buttload of pictures.
The dial up guys would shoot us..........
Maybe someone can put pics in an imageshack or photobucket account and provide the link.
The only problem with pictures is with the three typical beetle trannies and three bus trannies typically used in most
applications, that would be a buttload of pictures.
The dial up guys would shoot us..........
Maybe someone can put pics in an imageshack or photobucket account and provide the link.
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Actually, other people have most of the info, I just learned from it and compiled it into something visual...David58bug wrote:We need Daniel G he has all the Tranny info..........
I learned a great deal from Henryhoehandle's web page, especially.
There is another version of the Transmissions for Dummies thread in the offroad forum here that is a little bit more concise than that version. At some point I wanted to add non-vw and aftermarket transaxles that people use, but right now I don't have all the info I need to do that, nor the time right now. Maybe someone else here that knows them can write something up on other options...?
Daniel
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Daniel G wrote:Actually, other people have most of the info, I just learned from it and compiled it into something visual...David58bug wrote:We need Daniel G he has all the Tranny info..........
I learned a great deal from Henryhoehandle's web page, especially.
There is another version of the Transmissions for Dummies thread in the offroad forum here that is a little bit more concise than that version. At some point I wanted to add non-vw and aftermarket transaxles that people use, but right now I don't have all the info I need to do that, nor the time right now. Maybe someone else here that knows them can write something up on other options...?
I searched and it doesn't come up can you post the URL to it?
Daniel
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091 Shift Springs
I have had trouble with this before and could not find the answers on the internet,
so here are some photos.
The 091 shift mechanism has some springs, circlips, and a short "U"-bracket
that centers the shifter and tranny in the 1/2 position.
I pulled one apart and the springs flew apart and I struggled
to work out where all the parts were supposed to go.
The critical circlip goes between the uppermost spring(on left in photo) and the the short steel "U" that is found in the 091 tranny.
There are two other circlips at the bottom(far right in photo) that retain the pin in place,
and these go on either side of the main "U" piece that supports the relay shaft.
The other important thing is the spring length/strength.
The stronger/longer one goes in the lower position. (right hand side in photo)
so here are some photos.
The 091 shift mechanism has some springs, circlips, and a short "U"-bracket
that centers the shifter and tranny in the 1/2 position.
I pulled one apart and the springs flew apart and I struggled
to work out where all the parts were supposed to go.
The critical circlip goes between the uppermost spring(on left in photo) and the the short steel "U" that is found in the 091 tranny.
There are two other circlips at the bottom(far right in photo) that retain the pin in place,
and these go on either side of the main "U" piece that supports the relay shaft.
The other important thing is the spring length/strength.
The stronger/longer one goes in the lower position. (right hand side in photo)
Last edited by dangerous on Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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4th gear Parts Orientation
4th gear can be fitted either way, but the factory put the wide face toward the spring/spacer,
and the narrow face toward the bearing inner race end of the pinion shaft:
The slider(engagement sleeve) on 4th gear can also go together either way,
but normally a groove cut into the outer perimeter faces toward 4th gear.
If there is no groove(some early trannys), you can look for the back-cut step, cut on the little teeth inside the slider.
These face toward 4th gear.
Places like Long Enterprises, re machine this reverse tapered tooth to help the gear stay engaged under acceleration AND decceleration.
They also offer this tooth cut for all the teeth on the sliders of 1&2 as well as 3&4.
http://www.longenterprises.com/Images/s ... rgepic.jpg
http://www.longenterprises.com/remachined_sliders.htm
and the narrow face toward the bearing inner race end of the pinion shaft:
The slider(engagement sleeve) on 4th gear can also go together either way,
but normally a groove cut into the outer perimeter faces toward 4th gear.
If there is no groove(some early trannys), you can look for the back-cut step, cut on the little teeth inside the slider.
These face toward 4th gear.
Places like Long Enterprises, re machine this reverse tapered tooth to help the gear stay engaged under acceleration AND decceleration.
They also offer this tooth cut for all the teeth on the sliders of 1&2 as well as 3&4.
http://www.longenterprises.com/Images/s ... rgepic.jpg
http://www.longenterprises.com/remachined_sliders.htm
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3rd / 4th Hub orientation.
This one is another of those ones.
The 113 style always goes on with the chamfer on the bore towards 3rd,
no probs.
The 002 can go both ways.
But the correct way is with this groove in the OD of the hub is closest to 3rd gear:
The 113 style always goes on with the chamfer on the bore towards 3rd,
no probs.
The 002 can go both ways.
But the correct way is with this groove in the OD of the hub is closest to 3rd gear:
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