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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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seabeebuggy wrote:Welcome to the forum B66

Thanks :)

Long time lurker, so about time to actually build an engine with added pressure..

Will be a fun experience for sure!
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Still waiting on parts. Sent the longblock parts with boat because of the size and weigth.

Waiting for a confirmation on the camshaft, but are struggling to get a hold of Webcam. Will give them a call tonight.


Also been talking to Skinne regarding pushrods and turbo. Will order dual tapered pushrods from him, cut to length and assembled. And a rather large Precision turbo :)



On an other note, I broke som spider gears in my superdiff the other day, and I'm going to upgrade to a spool and some more bracing of the gearbox. Also I need to get my right AVO damper rebuilt, as it hit a bolt, and it lost compression inside.




I'll post some pics when the parts arrive :)
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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More parts are being shipped.

Just bought a set of VWSPeedshop SP1's and a trigger kit from the same shop.

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Soon time to build the longblock :)
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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looking good!
Better to be blown than to suck!
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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rubenski wrote:looking good!

Thanks :) They are a really nice kit.

I'll use the outer, lower injectors I think.

ID1000 should do the trick :)
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Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Looking good there neighbour. :)
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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bug66 wrote:
rubenski wrote:looking good!

Thanks :) They are a really nice kit.

I'll use the outer, lower injectors I think.

ID1000 should do the trick :)
I'd recommend going bigger if you are planning on running e85 and making 350hp :wink:
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Thanks for the tip Chip :)

Injector Dynamics own calculator says 100% DC at 7000 with 30psi of boost. Thats at 45psi ground pressure. I'll go down the single, or dual 044 pump route, so I could bump up the ground pressure to lets say 55psi. Then I'll be at 90% DC at the same rpm and boost.

Don't know the difference in price, but could go for ID1300. (or something like these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-ASPHALT-1400c ... 95&vxp=mtr)


I'll run E85 for sure as long as we have it at the pumps in Norway. Or stock pile whenever I go to Sweden... :D
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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And the parts for the longblock arrived.

:D

Like Christmas! :)


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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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bug66 wrote:Thanks for the tip Chip :)

Injector Dynamics own calculator says 100% DC at 7000 with 30psi of boost. Thats at 45psi ground pressure. I'll go down the single, or dual 044 pump route, so I could bump up the ground pressure to lets say 55psi. Then I'll be at 90% DC at the same rpm and boost.

Don't know the difference in price, but could go for ID1300. (or something like these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-ASPHALT-1400c ... 95&vxp=mtr)


I'll run E85 for sure as long as we have it at the pumps in Norway. Or stock pile whenever I go to Sweden... :D
I have ID1000s, and while they are great on gas, I maxed them out on e85. 100%DC at only 278whp going lean. That was with a Walbro 255 inline though. I e-mailed Injector Dynamics and tech support said aircooled turbo engines had a higher fuel requirement than your typical water cooler. I know there are people pushing them further with bigger and multiple pumps and such.I'll have to do the same for now. My next step will be a set of 160lb/hr. I finally have a pump that will keep up with the injectors, so we'll see how my new setup with the 1000's works for now.
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Chip Birks wrote:
bug66 wrote:Thanks for the tip Chip :)

Injector Dynamics own calculator says 100% DC at 7000 with 30psi of boost. Thats at 45psi ground pressure. I'll go down the single, or dual 044 pump route, so I could bump up the ground pressure to lets say 55psi. Then I'll be at 90% DC at the same rpm and boost.

Don't know the difference in price, but could go for ID1300. (or something like these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-ASPHALT-1400c ... 95&vxp=mtr)


I'll run E85 for sure as long as we have it at the pumps in Norway. Or stock pile whenever I go to Sweden... :D
I have ID1000s, and while they are great on gas, I maxed them out on e85. 100%DC at only 278whp going lean. That was with a Walbro 255 inline though. I e-mailed Injector Dynamics and tech support said aircooled turbo engines had a higher fuel requirement than your typical water cooler. I know there are people pushing them further with bigger and multiple pumps and such.I'll have to do the same for now. My next step will be a set of 160lb/hr. I finally have a pump that will keep up with the injectors, so we'll see how my new setup with the 1000's works for now.
Is that with or without a intercooler?

I might just go bigger on the injectors first time out. I'll start with one 044 pump, and could add another one if I need it.


Has anyone tried the "Asphalt" injectors I linked over here?

I know of some guys here in Norway running them on V8's and stuff, but I can't recall anyone using them on a AC-engine.
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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With a cooler. They'll stretch further with a bigger pump setup for sure.
The Asphalts sound nice. I think that five-o is a pretty reputable company. The warranty is nice too.
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Chip Birks wrote:With a cooler. They'll stretch further with a bigger pump setup for sure.
The Asphalts sound nice. I think that five-o is a pretty reputable company. The warranty is nice too.

Great.

Theres a guy in Norway with a single 044 and ID1000's. I think he dynoed quite a bit more than 350hp.


I think I'll go with the Asphalt 1400cc. Should be plenty :D


Just bought an original 044 made in the Czech Republic.

212$ at the local car-parts store.


With the horrific exchange rate we have at the time between Norwegian kroners and USD, that's really cheap :)
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Edit: It was 347hp and 487nm at the wheels.

Single 044 and ID1000's.

I'll get bigger injectors.



Hoping to get 200hp per liter at the wheels --> 417hp at the wheels.
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Manifolds arrived this morning at work :)

One has a small casting error just below the butterfly, so I might need to fill it with something.

Next on the orderlist is injectors and exhaust..

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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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