73 412 brake upgrades????

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Kgb412.Thomas
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73 412 brake upgrades????

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i ahve a 73 412 wag let it sit for a while cuz of lost licence and now is all locked up and rusted drums/rotors what rotors drums will fit with what calipers or does any one make the oem parts..... new to the forums
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Re: 73 412 brake upgrades????

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Welcome to the forums!

Fronts are same as Porsche 914 (42mm piston), still available, but $$. Can upgrade to BWM 320i calipers (48mm piston) also, but need spindle offset modification (?). Can upgrade to vented Porsche 911-M calipers (48mm piston), but need hub modification. I have pair of used '73 calipers in good shape from my daily driver for $50.

Rears are same as late Type 3, still available.
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Re: 73 412 brake upgrades????

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Welcome to the STF!

The drums/rotors/calipers you have will probably break free and/or clean up, and the calipers are easily rebuilt.
(The $50 offer is great tho if rebuildable)

I got a nice 69 Bug once for $400 since the "brakes were frozen"...
Dropping the clutch at ~5K cured that, drove it home.
(Expression on sellers face: Priceless)

If you have an automatic Do Not Try That. Big hammer and torch time.
(In fact, I'm not sure I'd try that in a T4 manual trans due to it being unobtanium)

USUALLY it's only the rears locked due to the pking brake being set (I've had the rears rust lock sitting a week at the airport in PDX)
...if the fronts are locked it's usually rust wedged behind the caliper piston seal.
Addendum to Newtons first law:
zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
EZ3.6 Vanagon after that.(mounted, needs everything finished) then Creamsicle.
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Re: 73 412 brake upgrades????

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thanks guys! i want to kepp it simple for know so i can drive it. i would eventually like to do upgrades similar to Bill (i love what you have done, very nice). i htink my MC may be toast to. is the 914 MC the same to. what about the rear brakes are they the same as 914.
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Re: 73 412 brake upgrades????

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Nope, rears are late Type 3 drums.

MC is 411/412 only. Watch out, don't buy the 411/412 servo (power assisted) MC that is out there. It has the mounting flange on the end. The manual MC has the mounting flanges on the side - harder to find, but still some around. Search here for a lot of info on rebuilding them.
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Re: 73 412 brake upgrades????

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There are several brake shops adveritised in Hemmings Motor news that resleeve and rebuild worn out master cylinders.
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